The Profit of War

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War consists of three major outcomes: it makes money for corporations, it destroys the innocent people of foreign countries, and it kills our troops. The general population of the U.S. cares about our troops but seem to look the other way when hundreds of thousands of innocent people die. How will we ever pay back the troops for what was and is being done to them? They serve willingly and ask that we do not use force unless no other alternative exists. They have been taken advantage of, and I suspect they will begin to speak out against war in the coming years. When people are told over and over that we're the good guys and are attacking a country because they are evil, the people start to believe it. Orwell illustrated this type of deception perfectly by showing us that a corrupt government can make one believe that 2+2=5 if it is pounded into their brain with enough force and regularity. George W. Bush and his administration convinced the American people that Iraq had WMDs and that they were involved in 9/11 because they were harboring "terrorists." "If you're not with us then you're against us" Bush said, as well as "we will use the full force of the American military." It's not shocking to hear him say that because he and all of his friends stood to make massive profits from war. Not only oil profits, but profit from the manufacture of military aircraft, weapons, and so on. His friends and business partners are executives in the companies that build those products, and they all made massive amounts of money from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. War generates profit and death, but profit seems to be more important to those who manufacture war.

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  • I'm so sorry you can't read. It's been stated. But keep shooting. Even a blind chicken sometimes finds the corn. Maybe you eventually get lucky and stop shooting yourself in the foot.

  • You have to have a "message" to be a messenger. What is YOUR message mom3?

  • If your indoctrination causes you to think that way, that's really your problem. I'm simply stating one shouldn't leave it at "Get over it... he won!" History has some bad examples of people simply living by that mantra. Clearly you have no proper response but are as usual just in attack mode. Keep shooting the messenger.

  • mom3: "So what? Not concerned at all that he didn't keep his promises? So what he won? That isn't an argument that's just stupid. Hitler won, too. Didn't do those Germans any good." That looks like a pretty direct comparison to me...Teabagger style! mom3 might as well have drawn the little mustache on the President's picture. .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+hitler+photo&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=pXFTUYPKNuSIygG-hoDQCQ&ved=0CDEQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=955

  • I don't think mom is comparing the president to Hitler but your statement of "Get over it... he won!" to those of the fanatic Nazis. I believe the argument is Hitler won an election to get to power. So did many other dictators. Maybe we all should have just gotten over it and let those people continue to rule in terror. After all they won the election. If "Get over it.. he won!" is your only defense, you might want to start searching for a proper answer. "Get over it... he won!" won't shut up people who provide the inconvenient information Obama adorers like to hide away. Then again, you can always start rounding all those people up. The Nazis did to hide the truth. Ignorance is an awful thing it makes some people believe the craziest things.

  • So now you are comparing the president to Hitler. Fear is an awful thing it makes some people say the craziest things.

  • So what? Not concerned at all that he didn't keep his promises? So what he won? That isn't an argument that's just stupid. Hitler won, too. Didn't do those Germans any good.

  • Yeap mummy3 thats all I need. Get over it he won!

  • Never heard that saying after Bush but heard it plenty of times after Obama got elected. Really? That's all you can come up with 1713fan?

  • You talk like liberal is a dirty word. Funny it seems to be that the Repugs are the ones in disarray. Aren't you all the ones that LOST the election? Like you all said when Bush won "Get over it....he won!

  • I forgot your other reference The Huffington Post one of the most liberal news outlets there is.....Your link says their study shows Fox News watchers are less informed...who says? the people that did the study, maybe they are the ones misinformed. 1713 just added to my oxygenthief list.....

  • 1713----Democrats had the majority in both the house and senate during the first of the almighty Obama term....I love your fox news reference...business insider, let's look at fox news profits and ratings compared to other news networks...I bet I know which one is the best and its not NBC, CNN, CBS, etc....then you have the great UK telegraph hhhmmm is that for United Kingdom not even an American news source the you have the nation blog, that uses a word "stupider" is that really even a word?

  • "its-official-watching-fox-makes-you-stupider" Well, there you go, 1713, you should not make Fox News your main source of information.

  • This Gitmo issue is very well documented by numerous respected news organizations...of which FOX is not one of them. As for mom3's assertion to "Watch Fox News and assume the opposite as truth" is spot on (and also well documented). Way to go mom3, you got something right for a change! Like these sources: ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/fox-news-less-informed-new-study_n_1538914.html ......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5 ........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9288158/Fox-News-viewers-worst-informed-study-finds.html ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... http://www.thenation.com/blog/167999/its-official-watching-fox-makes-you-stupider

  • Lol, Congressional Republicans closed the Gitmo closing? Really? You need to stop watching Fox News. Democrats had enough time to close it before any funding was cut. They didn't want to because it's unpopular with the US POPULATION to bring the prisoners to the mainland, and unpopular with the REST OF THE WORLD to take them in. Thanks to Obama the US has lost a lot of its power and allies. Nobody wants to take them. You know what people assumed when he promised to close GITMO? That'll get them prosecuted and taken care of quickly. Didn't happen. That's the truth. And it's that simple. But you keep following the marching order "Watch Fox News and assume the opposite as truth" Take your tinfoil hat off. Your brain is being fried.

  • "The President announced that they will have combat troops out of Afghanistan by 2014, starting this spring---------he also said he was closing GITMO and you see how that turned out going on his 5th year now.... Libs are idiots AKA oxygenthieves" ...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Why is Gitmo not closed? Simple answer for those outside the FOX News bubble...the Congressional Republicans blocked the funding for moving the prisoners to the mainland US and imposed restrictions on further transfers to other countries. It is just that simple. ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/us/politics/state-dept-closes-office-working-on-closing-guantanamo-prison.html?_r=0

  • For the inside story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War, a behind-the-scenes account of how Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and their lieutenants deployed false claims, iffy intelligence, and unsupported hyperbole to win popular backing for the invasion, watch the documentary "Hubris": New Documentary Reexamines the Iraq War "Hoax", on this Friday, March 22 at 9 p.m. ET. ................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... "A decade ago, on March 19, 2003, President George W. Bush launched the invasion of Iraq that would lead to a nine-year war resulting in 4,486 dead American troops, 32,226 service members wounded, and over 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians. The tab for the war topped $3 trillion. Bush did succeed in removing Saddam Hussein, but it turned out there were no weapons of mass destruction and no significant operational ties between Saddam's regime and Al Qaeda. That is, the two main assertions used by Bush and his crew to justify the war were not true. Three years after the war began, Michael Isikoff, then an investigative reporter for Newsweek (he's since moved to NBC News), and I published Hubris. ......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/hubris-rachel-maddow-documentary-iraq-war-david-corn

  • The President announced that they will have combat troops out of Afghanistan by 2014, starting this spring---------he also said he was closing GITMO and you see how that turned out going on his 5th year now.... Libs are idiots AKA oxygenthieves

  • seems 1137 doesn't like Bush----so does that mean you are a Democrat?----There have been quite a few wars during the terms of Democratic Presidents as well-----1713 can you actually count without using your fingers and toes? I am pretty sure there are still troops in Afghanistan....Speaking of FACTS it was CLINTON appointee CIA director George Tenet that told Bush it was a "slam dunk" Iraq had WMD's..

  • Then why are there still troops there? Looks like relabeling to me. Nothing is over!

  • http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/18/AR2010081805644.html

  • mom3, the bubble that your head is in can't hear the truth...don't feel sorry for me...read! The Iraq mission has not been relabled, it's OVER! Jeezzus Christmas!!! .........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/18/AR2010081805644.html

  • I'm sorry for you. You watch Fox News too much and are indoctrinated to automatically assume the opposite is true. The president also announced the combat troops are out of Iraq. As I said, relabeling the mission and redirecting news coverage doesn't change a thing. And yes, the Democrats voted for the wars, and more under Obama. I know, I know, the truth hurts you too much. So keep the windows closed and don't air out those fumes out of your home. Keep watching Fox News. They seem to need the Democrat audience. For that you demonize them so much you are sure one of their best customers. Meanwhile troops are still risking their lives for your liberty to distribute this nonsense while dreaming about girls' underwear drawers.

  • You can't blame the Iraq war on a "big screw up by our government...it was much more specific and insidious than that. It was the Bush administration specifically and it was predicted on lies. President Obama got us out of Iraq just last year (so it may be too soon to just conveniently "get over it", as Republicans surely wish that everybody would forget about right now). The President announced that they will have combat troops out of Afghanistan by 2014, starting this spring...you live in the Fox News bubble or you would know that already. Not excuses, just the facts ma'am!

  • And I am still waiting for Obama to stop the wars and get out of those places. Renaming and activity and changing media coverage doesn't change what actually is being done.

  • lol, so now the Democrats who so eagerly voted for the war were just lied to. Any more excuses?

  • First let me say that I could debate this war, fiasco,what ever you would like to call it and have.I do agree after all that has happened in the Iraq war was just another big screw up by our GOVERMENT.Think about the Korean war,Vietnam war, I could even say the Civil war was a mistake. What I was trying to say was get over it. I was suprised that out of the blue 1137 wanted to bring it up. I am not dening what was stated is not true. Again I could probably make the same statement about every politician on earth. But why keep bringing it up. We all need to get together to ensure that it dosnt happen again. Think Korea and Iran. I am a firm beliver when we go to war we should go in kick butt and leave. If this isnt going to work dont do it. I am not sure if youall realize we couldn't fly the American flag in Bagdad when we went in. That is just wrong and that is why my friend and other US soldiers are dying. Since Obama has taken over the rules of engagement in Afghanistan have changed. They basiclally on orders to not shoot first. THIS IS HOW SOLDIERS GET KILLED!!!!!!!!!!!Again if we can't conduct war any better than that come home NOW.Sorry for the rant it just frustrates me the way this country has gotten about war fair.In summary I dont support Bush on his actions now for what I know. It was just another example how we can't trust our leaders and I am all in favor with holding our leaders more responsible.

  • When a President starts a "dumb war" that didn't have to be for political reasons because those around him told him that it would be a "slam dunk", and sells the forthcoming invasion to the Congress and the rest of the world with lies, it ain't hindsight that is needed to call it what it was...unless you had your hands over your eyes through the whole run-up. If I had lost a best friend in this fiasco, I would be a lot less forgiving of Dubya than 570 is about it!

  • With hundreds of thousands of dead civilians and soldiers, you're pulling the old "hindsight is 2020" mantra? With war there is no hindsight, just results, and the results are horrific.

  • So you've ran out of new material to blame Bush for. Thank God there were no WMD!!!!!!!!!!!!!I lost a best friend in the war and several friends were disabled. I agree, Bush was totally wrong for going into Iraq. Hindsight is 2020.

  • And there was Haliburton and Blackwater Security...there were more private contractors in Iraq than soldiers. There were millions of dollars of US currency that were "lost" by the pallet full. And all for what? What did we accomplish really? As Ike said at his farewell address, "Beware of the Military Industrial Complex." How prophetic has that turned out to be?

  • I totally agree....