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Well we are on day from the great Obamacare starting period.  According to the lexington herald there are 640,000 uninsured kyians.  The latest sign up numbers show 116,152 have signed up( actually 31,672 when you subtract the 84,480 medicaid) .  I need to correct the herald as well.  Medicaid is NOT government funded its TAXPAYER funded.  640,000-116,152=523,848 will be breaking the law tomorrow.  So Mr President are you and the insurance police ready to get those people who have not signed up?  Hey if you did sign up you may or may not get your insurance card in time.  So if you fall and break your leg tomorrow and go to hospital tell them the card is in the mail.  You may or may not be in their system as well.  Oh and dont forget to pay that premium by Jan 10th because you have NO coverage till you make that first payment.  hhhmmm lets see no insurance card and not in the system.  So if you are not in the system where exactly are they keeping record you made your payment.  

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  • Just one question. Who will bail out these insurance companies when they go bankrupt from paying all the new claims the ACA requires them to pay?

  • Medicare for all would resolve the issues of web sites not being able to handle the heavy loads and the complications of trying to get all of these private companies coordinated with the exchanges. So much simpler.  In fact, all of you Teabaggers trying to sabatoge Obamacare are unwittingly helping us make the push for Medicare for All.  Thanks guys!

  • hhmm Canada has socialized medicine,  and is great then why is the canadian working and getting treatment in Mississippi?------oh by the way curious NO healthcare is FREE odummas plan is to just make somebody else pay for it.

  • Do you have a drug or alcohol problem? Do you not want children or are physically able to, or to old to have children?  Who cares Odumma and the Dems still make you pay for that coverage under the ACA.  Do you need a pacemaker or another medical device?  Get ready to pay the medical device tax thanks to the ACA!!!!!

  • Oh, and one more thing-Not everybody from the south is a knuckle dragging sister loving neanderthal. The Duck Dynasty bunch that you mentioned happen to be really good at selling their brand.  They make a lot more than both of us put together.

  • Yeah, whatever. I see nothing about taxes, so you obviously understand that they are high.  Nothing is free.  There are several good cancer treatment centers in and around MS. Vandy is only 3 hours up the road. And if you think Canadians aren't traveling for health care as well as other commodities, don't be standing on the border on Thursday afternoon.  That's all I have to say about that...

  • n4s, yeah I did, providing the facts about what Canadians thought of their healthcare and an overwhelming 85% liked it. I just pulled up another article and will post it...but there are hundreds. I choose to believe in facts, not anecdotal evidence of your friends.  

    "Meanwhile, Canada’s government released a report titled “Healthy Canadians — A Federal Report on Comparable Health Indicators 2008.” Its findings almost identically mirror the CHC polling results. In that report, a leading indicator points to the fact that “Most Canadians (85.2 percent) aged 15 years and older reported being ‘very satisfied’ or ‘somewhat satisfied’ with the way overall health care services were provided.”

    It doesn't look like most Canadians are traveling to GAWD forsaken Mississippi for "better treatment' like your secret "friend"...I mean, who in their right mind would go to Miss. for better anything.  Takes all kinds to make a world though...just like on Duck Dynasty.  If you can find some credible stats to back up your opinion, let us know.  

  • Homer, you haven't debunked anything, you just choose not to believe. Everything I said  is true.  How do you ever get a breath of fresh air?

  • I would love for everybody to have insurance.  And I am not trying to keep them from getting it. I just want them to pay for it like I have to!  

  • Feds announced today 1,000,000 sign ups.   So sad only about 45 MILLION short.  

  • ER ah, n4s, this, "You failed to mention the long waits to see a specialist, and even longer waits for treatment.  I have a Canadian friend with cancer who is currently living and working in Mississippi because he  can get better treatment quicker here.  His words, not mine. Also, the government gets money for this system from extreme taxes."

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  • UNITED STATES (The Borowitz Report)—Millions of Tea Party loyalists fled the United States in the early morning hours today, seeking what one of them called “the American dream of liberty from health care.”

    Harland Dorrinson, 47, a tire salesman from Lexington, Kentucky, packed up his family and whatever belongings he could fit into his Chevy Suburban just hours before the health-insurance exchanges opened, joining the Tea Party’s Freedom Caravan with one goal in mind: escape from Obamacare.

    “My father didn’t have health care and neither did my father’s father before him,” he said. “I’ll be damned if I’m going to let my children have it.”

    But after driving over ten hours to the Canadian border, Mr. Dorrinson was dismayed to learn that America’s northern neighbor had been in the iron grip of health care for decades.

    “The border guard was so calm when he told me, as if it was the most normal thing in the world,” he said. “It’s like he was brainwashed by health care.”

    Turning away from Canada, Mr. Dorrinson joined a procession of Tea Party cars heading south to Mexico, noting, “They may have drug cartels and narcoterrorism down there, but at least they’ve kept health care out.”

    Mr. Dorrinson was halfway to the southern border before he heard through the Tea Party grapevine that Mexico, too, has public health care, as do Great Britain, Japan, Turkey, Spain, Belgium, New Zealand, Slovenia, and dozens of other countries to which he had considered fleeing.

    Undaunted, Mr. Dorrinson said he had begun looking into additional countries, like Chad and North Korea, but he expressed astonishment at a world seemingly overrun by health care.

    “It turns out that the United States is one of the last countries on earth to get it,” he said. “It makes me proud to be an American.”

  • 1304 that's a great point you make.

  • ~~A huge part of the increased cost in health care is diagnostics. Modern technology has provided doctors with lots of choices for seeking additional information regarding your symptoms.
    That’s a long way from my doctor looking into my ears, listening to my heart, listening to my lungs thru a simple device and have a reasonable idea of how to treat me.  None of this was perfect but it lasted a long time.

    Now, in order for your physician to properly diagnose your trouble the doctor uses MRI, X RAYS, and a multitude of electronic sensing devices for a clearer definition of what may be ailing you. 
    Medicine by no means is SIMPLE and even if you take in to account the modern diagnostic tools people are living longer.

    If government wants to help our citizens be healthy they should start by reducing the amount of sugar or sugar substitutes in food and drinks. That would lead to a healthier America.  It reduces terminal illness and reduced insurance cost.
    U can pay now or save your money for the undertaker.
     

  • Not making it up curious...sorry to burst your bubble.  I have my own first hand word. Having an SIN number means I work in Canada...a lot.

  • Canadian health care system where everyone is covered totally - I have a friend from here who lives in Canada and has serious health issues and they told me they will never move back to the states because they LOVE THE CANADIAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.  I take their first-hand word for the Canadian system working, over any blabbermouth posting at State Journal online making stuff up.

  • And what have I said that you have debunked Homer?  Having a valid work permit and a SIN number, I think I have a clue.  Tell me what I said is wrong.

  • Why do you people root against America?  It is because you hate America. There is no free lunch, but it is amazing how many folks don't want to pay their fair share...they are freeloaders.  What they are too dense to realize is that they were already paying much more for the healthcare of these uninsured folks, who simply going to the ER's and getting care free, the cost of which was being paid by all of the rest of us through higher medical bills and insurance premiums.  Dooohh!  Wake up!!

    n4s, we have already debunked your assertions about the short comings of the Canadian system...this ain't your or your "friend's" first rodeo about this. 

  • " And you are wrong ....Medicaid is a joint federal-state program and the state receives federal funds based on a matching formula."

    Seriously ukfan? Where ddo the State and federal governments get these funds?  Do they manufacture some sort of product to sell? NO THEY DON'T!! They get the money by collecting taxes, making it taxpayer funded. It amazes me the way you guys try to spin this so that you can say it is a no cost item.

    " Cost assistance to individuals, families and small businesses through the marketplace."...More "free money", Homer?

     "So what difference at this point does it make"  Yes iT does sound familiar. I will tell you the same thing I would tell Ms. Clinton.  So that you can analyze what went wrong, what went right, What to do differently, and determine a path forward. Oh sorry, thats industrial thinking...you know, where we have to make a profit. 

    Curious, you mentioned the Canadian system. You failed to mention the long waits to see a specialist, and even longer waits for treatment.  I have a Canadian friend with cancer who is currently living and working in Mississippi because he  can get better treatment quicker here.  His words, not mine. Also, the government gets money for this system from extreme taxes. In addition to the Canadian income tax (which I have paid), there is the 14% GST on everything. Also, the government owns the Beer Store (Yes,that's what they call it), and the LCBO (liquor store to us) The first time you pay $45.00 for a case of Bud Light  will take your breath away. Currently, the exchange rate between the US and Canada is a push, so the 45 bucks is 45 bucks. Nothing is free.

  • I am happy President Obama has led our country to this point in trying to have every American covered for health care.  All the same "haters" who slam the president's efforts are also those who fought hardest in past attempts at providing full government-sponsored free health care to all citizens, such as the systems they have in Canada and the U.K.  Some people just want to complain.  I am glad our current president has this and other positive milestones under his belt.

  • Medicaid ...ACA...obamacare....they are still people without health insurance that can now afford. So what difference at this point does it make ( sounds familiar) what you label it. Why don't you want these people to have insurance? 

  • Wonderful job?  Just barely over 31,000 out of 640,000 laughable. STOP counting medicaid  ACA has NOTHING to do with that.   People would have gotten healthcare from medicaid even if thr ACA never existed.  Those are just fluff numbers.  Its the law of the land remember bring on the fines for those no sign uppers!  ------so whose fault is the slow rollout?  It started on the date it was supposed to.  Glitch after glitch.  And the FACT!!! Still remains more people lost their plan than got plans.  But dont worry obama and the dems are gonna graciously extended the deadline for those who lost their plan until october next year hhhmm just in time for key november elections!  

  • KYNECT has done a wonderful job of helping those 640,000 who were ininsured on December 1 to find decent and affordable healthcare...one of the best exchanges in the nation.  Governor Steve Beshear should be proud of the job that he has done.  They have helped 20% of those who were uninsured to obtain coverage...and why would anyone want to subtract the 84,480 new medicaid recipients from the total of those who have signed up under KYNECT?  That makes no sense...these people were without coverage before and now they are. Here is a quick overview of the different benefits, rights and protections:

    • New Health Insurance Marketplaces (AKA Exchanges) allow shoppers to compare Health Plans that include all new benefits, rights and protections.
    • Cost assistance to individuals, families and small businesses through the marketplace.
    • No annual or lifetime limits on healthcare.
    • Insurance companies can't drop you when you are sick or for making a mistake on your application.
    • You can't be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions. Learn More About Healthcare and Pre-existing Conditions.
    • You have the right to quickly appeal any health insurance company decision.
    • You have the right to get an easy-to-understand summary about a health plan’s benefits and coverage.
    • Young Adults can stay on their parent's plan until 26.
    • A large improvement to women's health services.
    • Reforms to the healthcare industry to cut wasteful spending.
    • Better care and protections for seniors.
    • New preventative Services at no-out-of pocket costs.
    • Essential health benefits like emergency care, hospitalization, prescription drugs, and maternity and newborn care must be included on all non-grandfathered plans at no out-of-pocket limit.
    • You can't be charged more based on health status or gender.
    • Plus many more benefits, rights and protections.

     

    The author of this hit piece doesn't read so good or is purposely trying to distort the successes of  Obamacare here in KY.  

    Here is really what the Lex. Herald Leader reported:

    "Kentucky had about 640,000 uninsured people when enrollment began Oct. 1. So far, 84,480 people have enrolled in government-funded Medicaid and 31,672 have enrolled in private insurance, a total of 116,152.

    Enrollment continues through March 31 for coverage in 2014. In Kentucky, those who apply during the next couple weeks can have coverage activated as soon as Feb. 1.

    Insurance cards

    State officials suggest that if you've signed up for insurance coverage but haven't received your insurance card, you can verify coverage with your insurer by going to your Kynect account. On the dashboard, click "View Details,, then "Future Enrollments" to get your enrollment ID number.

    State officials say providing ID numbers to insurance providers will help them locate new enrollees in their systems.

    For more information, go to Kynect.Ky.Gov or call 1-855-459-6328. Kentuckians have until March 31 to enroll in private insurance or Medicaid coverage for 2014."

     

    Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/12/30/3011265/health-insurance-enrollment-in.html#storylink=cpy

  • Well for your information my daughter-in-law, who signed up for ACA got her insurance card yesterday (Dec. 30th). Also my employer changed their insurance plan this month to another carrier (not through the exchange) and my insurance with the old carrier runs out on the 31st (today). The new insurance company (Humana) starts on the 1st of Jan. (tomorrow). This has been in the works for weeks and guess what? The new insurance company has not sent us any new cards or any info (group plan number). So don't act like it's the president's fault that the insurance companies are not doing their job. And you are wrong ....Medicaid is a joint federal-state program and the state receives federal funds based on a matching formula.

     

    Also the dead line for enrollment so that you will not be" penalized "is March 1st of 2014. You need to do a little better research before you put your "facts" in print.