Roadside Cheaters and Liars, get this.....

"Tired Of Liars And Cheaters" Published:

A LIAR AND SCAMMER BY THE INTERSTATE AT CRACKER BARREL.

 

Please do not give in to your inner sensitivities by giving money to these losers at the stop light

by the Logan’s and Cracker Barrel entrance. Just the other night, my wife and I took the very rare step of actually going

to a modest but fun dinner. We work extremely hard all week and consider ourselves charitable as well; let’s get that straight

up front. So as we are leaving the restaurant turning left on to the main road headed to the stoplight at Versailles rd.  We See This:

A newer white pickup truck pulls over and out gets a well dressed, young man (25 yrs old) with a drink and a sign. I immediately figure

It’s a “yard sale” or other info sign; given the vehicle and attire of the young man. Oh no! It’s a sign that says “family of three has nothing, anything appreciated”

This young man is dressed as if he were heading out to a restaurant or bar to watch the game with the friends. (After he cheats good people out of their money so

he can go drink and have a great time and continue his drug use). I have been around long enough to know what it was and it was a cheater, scammer and liar. DO NOT GIVE

TO THESE PEOPLE> especially this idiot. Please think about your response to this and how you are encouraging these liars if you type one

word of support of them and the crime they are committing. But as with everything, there will be a few people that

continue to say it’s okay to be lied to and cheated. Look in the mirror, before you hit send, if you support these criminals.

ITS NOT OKAY TO STEAL AND CHEAT! Please don’t infuse politics here, stealing is stealing! Get A Job! Its no different than a criminal in your home. today there are over 20 job postings on the SJ alone.

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  • Platitudes must be Homers word of the week...

  • my opinion is not degraded by name calling; it remains the same  :)

  • Fair enough just try and be civil about it. Name calling just degrades any opinion you may have.

  •  In my opinion there is nothing wrong with using the Bible as a source

    This is a basic difference of opinion between you and me.  In MY opinion, the Bible is not a credible source.

    But you can quote it if you want, and I can express my displeasure when you do.

  • well i dont agree for people begging for items but how did you know he was a fake a liaer people can have nice clothes and still be more and need assistance its called churces give them stuff and the good will has nice stuff as well that they can get them from so who are you to judge someone .

  • aga I pasted the Bible quotes into this post as a way to help people like homosapien that Jesus though he did want to help all he could it is also understood that people should still make every effort to help themselves. Homosapeien likes to throw the bible up at people who say they TRY to live by the Bible and I felt I needd to help him/her to understand . As far as your comments about keeping the Bible in the CHURCH, In my opinion there is nothing wrong with using the Bible as a source. It is like when people like to use the liberal media as sources.So thats how I took your comment . If I am wrong please explain.

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  • Seems to me you af re under the opinion that if you dont agree with it it should not be stated????

    Not at all.  I don't see how you get from not liking Biblical quotes to that.  It's a pretty big assumption to make, and it's incorrect.

  • Sorry aga, I was just using what sources that I have to makea point. Seems to me you af re under the opinion that if you dont agree with it it should not be stated????

     

  • Sigh.

    It would be nice if the Bible thumpers would restrict themselves to church and not pollute the public venues.

     

  • Request for Prayer

    3Finally, brothers and sisters,* pray for us, so that the word of the Lord may spread rapidly and be glorified everywhere, just as it is among you,2and that we may be rescued from wicked and evil people; for not all have faith.3But the Lord is faithful; he will strengthen you and guard you from the evil one.*4And we have confidence in the Lord concerning you, that you are doing and will go on doing the things that we command.5May the Lord direct your hearts to the love of God and to the steadfastness of Christ.

    Warning against Idleness

    6 Now we command you, beloved,* in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from believers who are* living in idleness and not according to the tradition that they* received from us.7For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us; we were not idle when we were with you,8and we did not eat anyone’s bread without paying for it; but with toil and labour we worked night and day, so that we might not burden any of you.9This was not because we do not have that right, but in order to give you an example to imitate.10For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: Anyone unwilling to work should not eat.11For we hear that some of you are living in idleness, mere busybodies, not doing any work.12Now such persons we command and exhort in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.13Brothers and sisters,* do not be weary in doing what is right.

    14 Take note of those who do not obey what we say in this letter; have nothing to do with them, so that they may be ashamed.15Do not regard them as enemies, but warn them as believers.*

    Final Greetings and Benediction

    16 Now may the Lord of peace himself give you peace at all times in all ways. The Lord be with all of you.

    17 I, Paul, write this greeting with my own hand. This is the mark in every letter of mine; it is the way I write.18The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with all of you.*

    Homo have you ever read this????

  • And some men speak only in platitudes.

  • "Some men weave their sophistry till their own reason is entangled."

    -- Samuel Johnson

  • Since this has become mostly a political ideology discussion...

    Do you know what gets my goat?  Candidates supported by Big banks, drug companies, and lawyers.  A look at some of the top donators to you know who's campaign during the last presidential election.  Those darn repugs.

    Goldman Sachs

    $1,034,615

    Microsoft Corp

    $854,717

    JPMorgan Chase & Co

    $847,895

    Google Inc

    $817,855

    Citigroup Inc

    $755,057

    Time Warner

    $617,844

    Sidley Austin LLP

    $606,260

    National Amusements Inc

    $579,098

    Skadden, Arps et al

    $554,439

    WilmerHale Llp

    $554,373

    IBM Corp

    $534,470

    UBS AG

    $534,166

    General Electric

    $532,031

    Morgan Stanley

    $528,182

  • I have not claimed authorship of anything that I have ever posted on here, in fact since this is an anonymous site, that would be rather difficult to do.  Why don't you concentrate on what I posted and tell us what is incorrect about it?  Socialism is an economic system (not a political system) characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy. With The Bible containing more than 300 verses on the poor, social justice, and God's deep concern for both, I think that splitting hairs between what is the most major tenet is ridiculous, let's just say helping the poor is one of Jesus's major tenets.  Who cares except Republicans who want to deny that?

  • If you'd like to continue to delude yourself about the content and authorship of your posts, that's your prerogative. But you have again misstated my opinion, just as you misstated Jesus's Gospel. My statement wasn't that helping the poor was a "minor tenet" of Jesus's Gospel. It was that helpng the poor wasn't the main one. You've tacitly admitted your error, so I won't beat a dead horse.

    And as far as calling Jesus a Socialist, my experience has been, when you try to mix religious and political labels, you compromise the integrity of both.

  • You comment is a diversion attempt, nothing more.  If parts of the articles are germane to what is being debated, why not cut and post?  This is an informal site where the rules of college term papers do not apply.  Very few folks on here site sources, much less footnotes.  Anybody can do a search with a few sentences and read the entire articles (which the parts I posted were only a portion) if they want to.  It doesn't take a super slueth there john.  Your offense is a good defense position is as pertinent to the content of my posts as correcting my spelling...and you know what they say about it if that is all that you can point at...or if you don't Google it and post it!

    The point is that it is your opinion that helping the poor was a minor tenet of Jesus and for that matter, the Bible...and there are plenty of scholars who disagree.  I am no scholar, but I know that Jesus was a Socialist par excellence, and that is the substantive issue that was raised in response to "Please do not give in to your inner sensitivities by giving money to these losers at the stop light...".  Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Homosapien, second question, out of curiosity: Is it common practice for you to copy and paste entire web articles and post them as your own thoughts? Pretty much your entire response below was copied and pasted from http://www.zompist.com/meetthepoor.html .

  • Wow, you spent a lot of time arguing against points I never made, or condemning me with false assumptions about things you know nothing of. All I did was point out your incorrect statement, Defensive much?

  • johnb: "Jesus did in fact advocate helping the poor, the widow, the oppressed, the sick, the hungry, all these things. Jesus said that's what a Christian does. But nowhere close to his central message."

    Well, that is YOUR opinon and you are entitled to it...let me guess, and I am going wayyyyyyy out on a limb here...you're a Republican?  

    The Bible contains more than 300 verses on the poor, social justice, and God's deep concern for both. Obviously, you feel a good deal of resistance, possibly manifesting itself as indifference. American churches have departed strongly from Biblical values in these areas, and even created a rationalization-- "prosperity theology"-- for rejecting them. It takes time and reflection to get past this misteaching.

    I think it's fair to say that American attitudes toward the poor-- and perhaps not just in America-- are mostly disdain and fear. They're dangerous and different. Sometimes there's a suspicion that their condition is their own fault, that they're simply lazy or inferior. Other Americans are more kind-hearted, but prefer not to look at the poor too closely; it's depressing, and they're surely not fun people to be with.

    These attitudes are a world away from God's attitudes, as described in these verses. Neediness arouses compassion in God-- and action.

    We may think: "Of course God loves the poor; he loves everybody." But it's not so simple as that; God's character is presented as a model for our own. If God values the poor, we have to think about what that means for us. 

    But try to get past the resistance. Spiritual growth doesn't come from what goes down easily, or what we like to hear and read. It comes from what's different, and even difficult. 

    Deut. 26:5-9. The Egyptians treated us harshly and afflicted us, and imposed hard labor on us. Then we cried to the LORD, the God of our fathers, and the LORD heard our voice and saw our affliction and our toil and our oppression; and the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with great terror and with signs and wonders; and He has brought us to... this land flowing with milk and honey.

    Luke 4:16-21. And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read... "The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, because He appointed Me to preach the gospel to the poor. He has sent Me to proclaim release to the captives, and recovery of sight to the blind, to set free those who are downtrodden, to proclaim the favorable year of the LORD... Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing."

    Ps. 140:12. I know that the LORD will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and justice for the poor.

    *** 25:4. For You have been a defense for the helpless, a defense for the needy in his distress.

    Ps. 10:14. The unfortunate commits himself to You; You have been the helper of the orphan... O LORD, You have heard the desire of the humble; You will strengthen their heart, You will incline Your ear to vindicate the orphan and the oppressed.

    *** 41:17. The afflicted and needy are seeking water, but there is none, and their tongue is parched with thirst. I, the LORD, will answer them Myself, as the God of Israel I will not forsake them.

    Luke 6:20-21. Blessed are you who are poor, for yours in the kingdom of God. Blessed are you who hunger now, for you shall be satisfied. Blessed are you who weep now, for you shall laugh.

    James 2:5. Did not God choose the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him? 

    The message here is really very simple: help the needy. It's not hard to understand; it's just hard to do.

    And the message is continuous. It's in the Torah; it's in the Prophets and Psalms; it's in the Gospels; it's in the Epistles. How many churches emphasize serving the poor as much as the Bible itself does? Would the world look the way it does if all believers followed these commands?

    Another thing to note about these verses is the lack of caveats-- the lack of excuses. None of them add "...once a year" or "...when you feel you can" or "...if they're moral" or "...unless they're black" or "...if they speak English". We have plenty of reasons (I'm sure you can think of a dozen) why we can't go out and feed the hungry, why we have to turn away the needy borrower-- and God help us, how many of us have sold so much as a lawnmower in order to have money to give away? But all those reasons belong to our sinful human nature, not to God. God just wants those needy people helped.

    If you wanted to be a Biblical one-issue voter, you'd do well to make that one issue serving the poor.

      

  • "But it isn't just anti-abortion that they are concerned about, but the party's ultra conservative stand againstgovernment programs helping the poor...the main tenet of Jesus Christ's message in the New Testament."

    The main tenet of Jesus's message in the New Testament was "repent and be saved for the Kingdom of God is at hand." He said, "I have come to seek and save the lost."

    Jesus did in fact advocate helping the poor, the widow, the oppressed, the sick, the hungry, all these things. Jesus said that's what a Christian does. But nowhere close to his central message.

  • need4speed, January 24, 2014 3:18PM

    "You have a job?"

    Why, are you tired of yours?  We are not hiring right now, but if one comes open for a technical writer I will keep you in mind.

  • You have a job?

  • aga, January 24, 2014 8:16AM

    "Far from being a raving idiot--at least on this thread--I think Homo makes some well-presented and salient facts."

    I guess that I will take that as some kind of left-handed compliment, so thanks.  Although if you see any post of mine that you consider to be the rantings of a raving idiot, please logically deconstruct it to show me the error of my ways.  So far, that is a pretty rare event.  I would love to have an actual debate on the substantive issues (which I pride myself on presenting) rather than all of these one-liner personal attacks, but hey, it is what it is...

  • steve_fry January 24, 2014 7:53AM

    "While it really bothers me to agree with Homo, the SBC and the Republican Party are aligned on many points. And I have heard of SBC preachers using their pulpit to push Republican-supported positions on issues."

    Thank you S_F, I have personally heard them do it too, which is why I stopped going.  If I wanna here that crap, I would watch FOX News!  But you should not be "really bothered" by the truth, regardless of how it contradicts your world view or shifts your paradigms.  That is what I am here for, that is my job...

  • user_34989, January 23, 2014 10:39PM

    "Homo,  I have thought for a long time that you just might be a raving "idiot."  You have now posted your rants and raves and confirmed it."

    OK, that is your opinion to the facts that I have posted...and you are entitled to it.  But I didn't just make this stuff up.  Tell us all what I said that was incorrect, please. 

  • Far from being a raving idiot--at least on this thread--I think Homo makes some well-presented and salient facts.

    Like Steve Fry says, the SBC and Repugs are aligned on many points.  This is obvious to anyone who cares to take even a quick look at both.  And, while I don't go to church, even I have heard preachers who endorse political agendas by cloaking them in a religious frame.

    For many years, I have been first confounded, then disillusioned, at the blatant disregard for the supposed separation of church and state.

  • While it really bothers me to agree with Homo, the SBC and the Republican Party are aligned on many points. And I have heard of SBC preachers using their pulpit to push Republican-supported positions on issues.

  • Homo,  I have thought for a long time that you just might be a raving "idiot."  You have now posted your rants and raves and confirmed it.

  • Bodeen: "What local church do you think is scamming the congregation?"

    Well, since you asked, certainly any of them that use the pulpit to lobby its faithful to elect Republican candidates, in direct violation of the 501(c)3 tax exempt status.  Some of these are Baptist churches that are directly affiliated with and support financially the 16.3 million-strong Southern Baptist Convention, perhaps the largest single bloc of evangelical voters and a must-have Republican constituency.  When their membership drops those envelopes into the plate, very few of them realize that they are supporting an active Republican lobbying organization in the SBC. Don't take my word for it, just ask any of them!

    It is the same confounding personal involvement with organizing for political power that started in modern times with organizations like the Moral Majority.  The SBC's leader, Richard Land, is one of the nation’s most politically influential Southern Baptists, and is routinely sought out by Republican campaigns at all levels.

    There is a small but vocal number of Baptist preachers who believe that the denomination is too cozy with Republicans and too political in general. By flirting with the line separating good citizenship and a grab for power, the denomination is experiencing flat membership by alienating more people.  Plus it is morally reprehensible...a fact not lost on these preachers, but they are in the minority.

    Southern Baptists have been solidly Republican since the emergence of the anti-abortion movement, the denomination’s “conservative resurgence” of the late 1970s and Ronald Reagan’s election in 1980, and there is no indication of that wavering.  Eighty percent of those who voted for George W. Bush in his last election identified themselves as evangelical christians.  But it isn't just anti-abortion that they are concerned about, but the party's ultra conservative stand againstgovernment programs helping the poor...the main tenet of Jesus Christ's message in the New Testament.  In essence, the Republicans and the SBC are anti Christ in this respect, and being able to sell that message to church congregations is the epitome of scamming!

    Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a GOP presidential hopeful and Southern Baptist minister, signed copies of his new book at the SBC annual meeting.  He also has a daily show on prime time FOX News where he sells his brand of comingled church and state and drubbing of the so-called "socialism" that Jesus taught.  With preachers like him, the church imposes its extreme conservative Old Testament dogma upon the rest of the country by getting Republican politicians that they support to codify it into law.

    I will now take any questions...;-)

  • Remember the 47% comment Romney made?  You know in which he claimed that 47% of the people are takers and will never vote for him?   He also assumed that a group of people were less than him because they needed help.  Funny thing though, his 47% includes Veterans, who earned their benefits, people collecting social security, who paid for their benefits, and the really poor who rely on government services to stay alive.  It does not include the billions in corporate welfare and tax cuts for the rich.  Seems some of our legislators on the right are making the same assumptions.  Aer they also liars and scammers?????

  • Seems to me you're the one ranting.....and imo you don't understand much of anything.

  •  Typical rants by people that seemingly never go out of their basements long enough to realize that churches ARE good, most people enjoy AND feel good about helping others, WORK hard everyday, only WANT everyone to get along and to CARRY their own water (if their age and body are able). Now, because I looked at previous post's made by several of you I totally understand that you dont believe in anything real-life. Its fine to provoke disscussion, but at the cost of your self respect? and that it makes every single post going forward tarnished and a waste of time to read. QUIT SUPPORTING ADDICTS, CROOKS, CHEATERS. ITS REALLY SIMPLE. OR YOUR OTHER CHOICE IS TO STAY IN INDOORS AND JUST THINK EVERYONE IS TELLING YOU THE TRUTH. WOW! Give to the good and deserved, and take everything away from the cheating addict liars!

  • Not all churches.

  • lol, homosapien.  Yes, it is pot..kettle, at least to me, but doncha know?  It's different when it's a church......that particular type of scamming is sanctioned, condoned, and encouraged....

  • Pot calling kettle black? Actually I knew of two women who drugged up all their rent & food money behind their husbands back and told one huge lie after another in order to get more money. By me knowing them and the real situation, it didn't work. There is nothing wrong with not helping addicts get money for drugs but to treat all beggars as drug users without knowing for fact is. What local church do you think is scamming the congregation?

  • But who is gonna stop the curches from scamming innocent people out f their money?  Happens all the time...pot calling kettle black?

  • If ya don't want to give or help out then don't but why automatically ASSUME that this person was a drug addict and wanting money for drugs. I will agree that some of these people probably are but not all and for that reason I would rather help if I could at the moment just in case.

    Reminds me of a young black man in Mississippi that came up to me in a store parking lot needing a dollar. I never thought twice about it and by the time I got back in my car, he walks out with a bottle in a brown paper bag. LOL.  I didn't know that he was going to do that but it didn't bother me. I would hate not helping the ones who does need the help by not giving at all and assume that everybody is doing it for drugs.                                                                                                                                  Steve I know that churches are scammed all the time by women with kids and the lies they tell, WOW, they know how to work the churches. Never give cash to these people!

  • There is nothing illegal for someone just to ask you for money, nor should there be even if they are lying.  This is not like threatening or using coercion to get folks to give them their money.  I know, I know, but they were lying, true enough.  But hey, cops lie to people that they stop all the time...so if the police can legally lie to you anytime that they want, why not a panhandler?  It is up to the individual to know the rules for dealing with lying police just as much as lying panhandlers.  Why should a panhandler be held to a higher standard of honesty than a sworn officer of the law?

    Sorry, I keep bringing up these inconvenient truths...I know it blows a lot of arguments out of the water and all...

  • BTW, the guy was there again last night...

  • Callit: "Some of us are actually very bright and have lived on the earth long enough to know what we are seeing. Ever heard of "smells like fish, looks like a fish, swims like a fish...ITs a FISH..".

    Well, you do know that your point completely changed between your first and second post, right?  Mr. Bright or can I call you Very, if you are so danged smart and good at knowing what you are seeing, how come you keep voting for Republicans?;-)   I that people with the empathy gene, you know, bleeding heart liberals, can recognize a pig in a poke just as good as a heartless conservative...we are not stupid!  That is why we never vote for Mitch McConnell!

    Some of us are actually pretty good judges of character, and when we see someone in need we don't just open our wallets and hand out money.  I find it hard to call folks "victims" if they were dumb enough to fall for a simple scam and hand them money.  If someone asks you for money and you give it to them unquestionably, then it is on you, not them.  Learn how to just say NO, Nancy Reagan style.

  • And by the way, stealing is stealing, and cheating is cheating, and I assume you dont consider this "relative"  In other words, it is what it is.  Well, then, others are tired of paying for users. Drugs or not.  Users!  That would be lazy people!  Keep up the good charitable work!  ENABLING!

  • Completely missed the point!  And exactly why the post was made to begin with.  If you feel the need to be charitable to scammers than by all means continue to do so.  You only continue to hurt those that actually need REAL assistance.

    There is no need to argue about the details other than to say, if the young man had transportation, of any kind, and needed help for himself or his family, then drive him to get food, drive him to get clothes, drive him to the government assistance office( since you believe all of us tax payers should not judge his circumstances and should meet "the cause", drive him to get medical attention for he and his family, etc. those are true needs).  But, drop him off at a church or at dinner hour in restaurant business parking lots or right outside of them at 4 in the aftenoon for potential help with enabling a drug habit is your choice.  I don't choose to participate.

    Trying asking one of these scammers if you can provide them the REAL assistance they need and they will "politely" advise that they will just "take the cash, man."  Just try it some time.  You might change your mind on your CHARITABLE help and realize you are enabling drug users and conartists and causing our system to crumble for the people that need REAL assistance.

    PS. Glad you brought up the legal side of things, HOMOSAPIEN, you are exactly correct, perhaps our legal system should begin to take note and up the ante!  They, the panhandlers as you refer to them, are continuing to work the system and you!

     

    Good luck.

  • A thought:  so what if it did turn out to be a scam?  Does charity depend upon qualifications?

    I thought giving was its own reward; when I give, I do not attach any conditions to it.

    And if I get scammed, so what?  Truly needy or con artist, my reward was in the giving, not in policing the recipient to ensure they are worthy of my gift.

  • I agree that you are making unsupported assumptions and judgments, betraying your prejudice, self-righteousness, and mean-spirited mindset.

    You consider yourself "charitable"?  I hope I never need your "charity".

     

  • I agree that there are some bad people that will prey on others. But I know that there are people who really need help. I believe that your church has a great way to deal with this situation. If you see someone that is on the street and is asking for help take them to your church or give them the number of an organization that is willing to help. But don't assume that just because they are dressed well and happen to drive a vehicle that they are druggies or scam artist. A lot of people are unemployeed through no fault of theirs but because they may have been laid off from work and that they are having a really hard time trying to find employment. And yes there are a few jobs advertised but not everyone is skilled in these certain areas. So if you want to call me a "bleeding heart" go ahead that's better than having no heart at all. It's not our place to judge anyone ....that is for God to do.

  • We had a visitor Sunday night at choir practice (only choir members in the building at the time) that came in, complimented our singing, then asked for 'help' with her gas situation, bills, medicine, etc. After one of our members took her to another room to take down her contact information, our church secretary recognized her as someone who'd scammed the church previously. Due to these scammers -- and there's a surprising number of them out there -- we've had to impose some rules for people that ask the church for money. Once we've verified the need, a representative of the church will go with them to Kroger or Walmart and purchase their groceries (making sure that inappropriate items are NOT purchased). SImilarly, we've made arrangements with Columbia Gas and FEWPB to assist with bills. It sucks to have to distrust people from the get-go, but it's come to that. :o\

     

  • There are many folks in actual need and obviously less fortunate. That is relative. There are many folks scamming the system and you and me everyday. Homosapien goes to great extent to advise the writer that they are wrong! So may I ask, since you Homosapien were not there at all, how do you know the circumstances and seem to be extremely defensive regarding this issue? Stealing is stealing. And, cheating is cheating. Not sure that is so relative. However, the example given that someone scamming you on the street is no different than someone stealing from your home or a business is a good one and should be recognized. Homosapien, You are correct, the legal system may need to up the ante on this one! So good for you for pointing out the legal system! Does anyone care what truck the guy was in, other than he must have had transportation. If he can be driven to the street corner for free money, he can be driven to a shelter for food, a government office for legal support(since you believe he should be supported by all tax payers that do work) or better yet, he could be driven to an interview for a job or to place an application so that he could help himself, therefore help his family. Your right, none of us truly know all circumstances and perhaps this individual truly needed assistance. Unfortunately there seems to be many bad apples that give the few in real need a bad name. Many times monies collected are used for drug habits etc. and they prey on the emotions of good hearted people that truly want to help those in need. Guess what, none of us are helping drug users, only enabling irresponsibility and contributing to terrible habits. Try telling the panhandlers as you refer to them that you will take them to get a sandwich or some clothes, medical help, government help etc. and see what the reaction is. Most likely, "No way man just pass the cash!" They have usually already tried assistance and ran their time limit on that avenue or their habit caught up and now disqualifies them. For those truly in need, shame on any of us that don't go out of our way to be helpful. And for those who do scam, get a job. It's about a hand up, not a hand out!

  • First off, as the submitter said they expected those responses. I however have to agree with "Tired". Some of us are actually very bright and have lived on the earth long enough to know what we are seeing. Ever heard of "smells like fish, looks like a fish, swims like a fish...ITs a FISH..". Doubt seriously if "Tired" cares what you may think. (no disrespect) if your family was a victim of the cheat/liar you'd be upset, or maybe not. Bleeding hearts can't seem to break through the idea that there really are bad people out there. Ever watch the news?

  • I have to agree with Homosapien....you are assuming a lot. That is unless you stopped and asked about his situation.

  • Of course it is not all right to lie and cheat...who says it is?  But it is also important to remember that NOT all folks who are on the roadside begging for help fit that small category you describe, as you seem to be implying.  

    From your vague discription, it is apparent that you really don't know anything about this guy other than his relative youth (to you) and what his sign said. The rest seems to be assumptions based on your preconceived notions about panhandlers.

    Some questions that pop into my head include:

    Whose truck did he get out of?

    Where did the turck go or park?

    What was he drinking?

    How do you know that he was a drug user?

    Were you personally lied to or cheated by this man?

    Did he approach you personally and make a pitch or coerce you into giving him money?

    On a more general note, why do you say that panhandling is "no different than a criminal in your home"?  Really?  Seems to me to be a totally different thing, and I thing that the law agrees with my point of view.  But I would like for you to tell me why you think that.

    What has this got to do with politics?  Are you inferring that Independents, Democrats and Republicans disagree withthe concept of "stealing is stealing"?  I don't think so.  So really, the only one "infusing politics into this" seems to be YOU!  In fact, your narrative seems to be revealing a lot more about you than him.  Thanks for the warning!

    I am really close to hitting send and I went in and looked in the mirror (and yes, it is still me) so does this mean that I support criminals? ;-)