Obama Gas

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When Bush was in office and gas was in the high $3 range all the liberals and Dummocrats cried foul.  It's evil oil barons we have in office Bush/Cheney.  Well when Bush left office the national gas average was $1.68.  Over 5 years later with our green clean Obama who parks his hybrid vehicle in his garage.  Gas is $3.79 today in Frankfort.-----add the Obama green companies $535 MILLION now bankrupt, A 123 batteries systems $250 MILLION stimulus now bankrupt, Fisker Auto $139 MILLION ( by the way were not even making cars in America), bankrupt, well today $30 MILLION  stimulus Smith Electric Cars.  Just closed their U.S. Operations-----$954 MILLION TAX DOLLARS GONE!!!!!  

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  • pitch: "Only thing under attack is voter fraud and the integrity of a legal vote. "

    Yeah, that is what they tell you over in FOX bubble land, huh?  But there are no facts to back up that empty accusation.  Find me just one please...just one instance where voter fraud has been documented in any numbers at all.  Sure, it exists with one over here and one over there, but it is exceedingly rare and hardly worth disenfranchising tens of millions of voters over...unless that is the idea!

    The facts are clear for those willing to listen...read this:

    Nationwide that rate of voter impersonation is extremely low.

    "Out of the 197 million votes cast for federal candidates between 2002 and 2005, only 40 voters were indicted for voter fraud, according to a Department of Justice study outlined during a 2006 Congressional hearing. Only 26 of those cases, or about .00000013 percent of the votes cast, resulted in convictions or guilty pleas."

    Tracy Campbell, a history professor at the University of Kentucky who studies voter fraud in past elections, said contemporary voter ID laws are trying to solve a problem that hasn't existed in over a century.

    VOTER FRAUD FACT: Oppenents of the Democractic party like Fox News and oppenents of Government in general like the Koch Brothers and are just some of the powerful groups behind the Voter Fraud Controversy in the United States. They stand to lose the most money and power if Republicans lose elections.

    Organizations like Fox News & Koch Brothers backed groups like ALEC and the Heritage foundation help to spread talking points and draft legislation to prevent low-incomes families, students, seniors and "minorities" from voting. Pay attention they tell you that Democrats are drinking the Kool Aid, but this is a manipulation tactic to control the people. Don't be fooled, get even and cast your vote.

    At Voter fraud facts we take an in depth look at voter id laws, voter fraud myths and other voter supression tactics meant to prevent voter turnout.

    Between 2000 and 2010 there were 649 million votes cast in general elections and 13 cases of in-person voter impersonation.  Basically, there is no widespread attack of voter fraud...it is a tactic used by old conservative white men who see the writing on the wall that their national reign of terror is coming to an end.

    What this whole voter fraud is really all about is good ol' fashioned CHEATING.  If the Republicans can't win on their merits, they have no problem in stacking the deck with disenfranchising voter ID laws and gerrymandering. Now that is a fact worth listening to...and it is a very dangerous trend.

  • pitchfork...just where is all this voter fraud you are talking about?  If it was so bad looks like we would have read a lot about it in the newspaper or television. Can you give me any numbers on how many fraudulent votes that have been casted here in the country? Where are all the court cases from voter fraud being prosecuted? Very curious.....

  • Voting rights are under attack in this country as state legislatures nationwide pass voter suppression laws under the pretext of preventing voter fraud and safeguarding election integrity. These voter suppression laws take many forms, and collectively lead to significant burdens for eligible voters trying to exercise their most fundamental constitutional right.

    Only thing under attack is voter fraud and the integrity of a legal vote. An eligible voter, a legal voter, an honest voter would not mind showing some form of state issued ID whether it was a drivers license or a personal ID like ones you can get at the very same place you get your drivers license. A college ID it not a legal ID card. You cannot use it to buy cigarettes, alcohol, or even get a check cashed.

    Our court houses does not store birth certificates and I believe that's part of the Vital Statistics department for each state. And like the Department of Library and Archives here in Frankfort it's all being save to digital media from the old microfiche system.

    Democrats are running out of reasons to keep illegal voters away from the polls. It is an American voting system that other nations want to emulate to secure and ensure the integrity of their elections and keep them legal.

    Some banks when you cash a check have you do a thumb print on the check. And nations that are now having elections and using a vote have their citizens put a print on their casted ballots. Maybe that's what should be implemented here to stop voter fraud and in the same time track and find the illegals in the country.

     

  • need4speed, April 24, 2014 1:23PM

    "and would be required to navigate the administrative burdens to obtain it"

    So buck up and navigate..I did.

    Yeah, but you are lucky, relatively rich and white...and really, all that you would have to do is show up with an electric bill and you could vote instantly.  Plus, if you needed a drivers license, all that you had to do was drive your car a few miles to the court house and they gave you one for an amount that was a tiny fraction of your disposable income.   You aren't old, infirmed, disabled, a student, an urban dweller, or have numerous other impediments and your birth ceritficate is in your file cabinet.  You are lucky that someone isn't trying to disenfranchise you and your entire race...never have and never will.  You don't even konw the meaning of the word "buck up"...as you have never really had to with all of the advantages readily availableto you in our society today.  Go ahead and deny it...I know it is coming, and don't forget the race card bit! ;-)

  • and would be required to navigate the administrative burdens to obtain it

    So buck up and navigate..I did.

  • need4speed, April 20, 2014 12:02PM

    "ukfan, I call bullshirt on that one.  I have been asked for ID each and every time I go to vote.  That includes early absentee balloting as well."

    You may have been asked but you were not required to show a photoID in KY.  There is nothing wrong with showing your PhotoID if you have one...but if you don't have one, there should be other means of showing who you are.  What if you don't have a driver's license anymore because you are too old to drive?  What if the court house where you were born burned down a long time ago, along with your birth certificate?

    Voting rights are under attack in this country as state legislatures nationwide pass voter suppression laws under the pretext of preventing voter fraud and safeguarding election integrity. These voter suppression laws take many forms, and collectively lead to significant burdens for eligible voters trying to exercise their most fundamental constitutional right.

    During the 2011 legislative sessions, states across the country passed measures to make it harder for Americans – particularly African-Americans, the elderly, students and people with disabilities – to exercise their fundamental right to cast a ballot. Over thirty states considered laws that would require voters to present government-issued photo ID in order to vote. Studies suggest that up to 11 percent of American citizens lack such ID, and would be required to navigate the administrative burdens to obtain it or forego the right to vote entirely.

  • Yep you got me on that one. But you know what .....not everyone has a car to drive....they rely on mass transit or a friend or relative. But I doubt they would take a bus pass as ID though. They won't even take a student ID. Maybe we just all need to get ID tatoos. lol

     

  • Yeah, but you probably drive.

  • A lot of people don't fly, smoke or drink alcohol. I know I don't.

  • Maybe it's the beard and ponytail... I still don't see an issue with having to show an ID to vote.  As has been mentioned earlier, you have to show a photo ID to board an airplane, buy a pack of smokes, buy beer and wine, and on and on.

  • When President George W. Bush took office in 2001, gasoline sold for an average of $1.55 a gallon. In the summer of 2008, his last year in office, prices exceeded $4.25. In reality, presidents have little to do with near-term fluctuations in gas prices.
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/opinion/verrastro-west-gas-prices/

    By the way, Smith's didn't close:
    Hansel said that Smith decided on the temporary stoppage because the business is building vehicles at a loss and needs to reorganize its supply chain. The company plans to resume global operations by mid-summer, and expects to become profitable by the end of the year. Smith has not laid off any assembly or manufacturing staff, and engineering activities are continuing as normal, Hansel said.
    http://chargedevs.com/newswire/smith-electric-vehicles-suspends-production/

  • Once again your wrong. I have lived in several districts and guess what .....no one asked. All I had to do was sign my name to the log book.

  •  As far as proof you won't believe what I say regardless so I won't waste my time I have voted for years and no one has asked me for ID

     You're right as long as you keep thinking that spoon fed lap dawg media is 100% correct I'll not listen to you.

    As for you and Fry-(BTW soory about the passing of your momma Fry) saying you've not been asked for an ID when voting. You 2 know that Frankfort is big enough to get businesses in here yet small enough to know that people who volunteer at our polling places will know who we are since they probably interact with you guys on a daily basis or even less, but know who you are especiality if you live in your district all you voting life.

    You 2 not having to show ID amounts to George Taylor not asking for mine when he had the liquor store on Versailles road and I had a car load on a Friday night headed out to Hockensmiths farm for a party. I was not ever carded in this town till I turned 21. Even down at the Cave when it was in its hay day I didn't get carded. You both know it's who you know and who knows you and that's the way it's been here for as long as I can recall. Today I get carded to buy cigarettes and I'm freakin 52 years old by the little 18 year old at Speedway dang it all.. lmbao..

    BTW the "b" in that means big  BrunoUno...

      So, what are you calling a "valid ID"?  Concealed weapons permit. Yep.  Photo ID from a major university?  NOPE.

    Since Republicans won control of many statehouses November, 2010, a total of 34 states have passed laws requiring voters to show photo identification at polls, cutting back early voting periods or imposing new restrictions on voter registration drives. Republicans, who have passed all of the new election laws, say they are necessary to prevent voter fraud, and question why photo identification should be routinely required at airports but not at polling sites. Democrats counter that the new laws are a solution in search of a problem, since voter fraud is very rare. The real effect is that the laws will discourage, or even block, eligible voters — especially poor voters, young voters and African-American voters, who tend to vote for Democrats.

    Coincidence?  I think not.  If you can't win elections on the merits of your platform, then just tilt the playing table to your side...works ever time for white people and it is time tested since slavery was abolished.

    It's obvious that you haven't been paying attention to the cases that are now being brought beofre local and federal judges of voter fraud that isn't as rare as Democrats are claiming to be. I understand that you have your news source coming form the lame stream media lap dawgs so just go search for yourself and find it out.

    BTW Bush's 2004 election is also scared with voter fraud as well. But maybe you enjoy having your vote not count when fraud happens doesn't matter what party it happens to, your vote gets cancelled out same as mine. So I would hope that everyone would want proof of who is voting.

    There is nothing wrong with proving you have the legal right to vote in this country. It's the crooks that have a problem with and the ones that scream the loudest.

    So tilting the table their way by funding fake voter rallies, signing up dead people, requesting which party you are registered with on public forms, IRS aduits and hold up of tax exemptions, and even using Disney characters names on voter registration cards isn't wrong then explain to what is wrong and which steps you would improve on to ensure legal voting is upheld since all Democrats seem to say is it's going to hurt voters? Honest voters are not about to get their drawers in a bunch over being asked for an ID. That's the democrats talking nonsense.

     

  • N4s. Maybe you just look illegal.

  • Hmm here's a plate of bullshirt for ya, n4s. I've voted for years and have rarely if EVER been asked for an ID.

  • ukfan, I call bullshirt on that one.  I have been asked for ID each and every time I go to vote.  That includes early absentee balloting as well.

  • So, what are you calling a "valid ID"?  Concealed weapons permit. Yep.  Photo ID from a major university?  NOPE.

    Since Republicans won control of many statehouses November, 2010, a total of 34 states have passed laws requiring voters to show photo identification at polls, cutting back early voting periods or imposing new restrictions on voter registration drives. Republicans, who have passed all of the new election laws, say they are necessary to prevent voter fraud, and question why photo identification should be routinely required at airports but not at polling sites. Democrats counter that the new laws are a solution in search of a problem, since voter fraud is very rare. The real effect is that the laws will discourage, or even block, eligible voters — especially poor voters, young voters and African-American voters, who tend to vote for Democrats.

    Coincidence?  I think not.  If you can't win elections on the merits of your platform, then just tilt the playing table to your side...works ever time for white people and it is time tested since slavery was abolished.

  • Unbiased news source??? Fox News? Hahahaha. I love my God but my god and my God teaches love and tolerance not hate. As far as proof you won't believe what I say regardless so I won't waste my time I have voted for years and no one has asked me for ID.

  • What's wrong with showing a photo ID? I have to show one before I vote. Unless of course you happen to be here illegally.  That might keep you from voting...which is the intended plan.

  • That's your answer and proof ukfan? That's typical can't find proof other than the lap dog media trying to discredit an un-baised news source. Typical Liberal ploy..Truth hurts your eyes and ears and burns your godless soul...  

  • Try watching something other than Fox News and you will be enlightened.

  • As far as winning elections and playing nasty just look at how the Republicans are suppressing the vote.

    Ummm The Fourteenth Amendment followed by the Fifteenth Amendment clearly states who is allowed to vote here in America. Showing a valid ID is nothing compared to the oppression of the Democratic party and their history of preventing US citizens in voting. Jim Crow ring any bells?

    The tricks the Democratic party are playing today amounts to reversal of their soiled past, only this time they want to keep control by allowing illegal voting. I like the idea of picture Social Security card that cannot be falsified or duplicated. You have to be a citizen in order to get one either by being born here or going through the process of becoming a citizen. Just having a kid here doesn't qualify one to become a naturalized citizen, that came from being here illegally in the first place.

    Now what's wrong with being honest and having honest elections? You have to show an ID to buy beer, cigarettes, and get into political functions, when you get pulled over by the cops or even to pick your kids up at school.

    It's not that much of a big deal now is it? Harry Reid has some big bawls talking about following the law of the land...lmbao

    They are also shortening the times that you can vote by not letting people vote early. They are closing some of the voting places and moving them out into the rural areas which makes it hard for voters who don't have a car. They can of course go by bus or taxi but that costs money to do and some of these people are already strapped for cash. There are even places that are not providing restrooms for voters who may be in line to vote.

    BTW the Republicans have nothing to do with voting polls or places to vote. That would be your state, city, local municipality voting boards. *smdh* Some of the things you come up with in an rebuttal just sends my head swimming...But if course you can provide evidence to this outlandish claim right?

     

  • Oh and KY democrats decided to raise the fuel tax.  And just announced today Obama delayed his decision on the keystone pipeline AGAIN!   He usually loves waving his magic wand signing executive orders, well except when it actually helps America.

  • Correction $3.89 today.....

  • That would be anyone who makes the so called min. wage. Anyone who works full time and still has to rely on the government to subsidize their pay with food stamps in order to provide meals for their family I consider working for "peanuts".

    They are requiring people who have been voting for years to NOW provide a government issued ID. They are also shortening the times that you can vote by not letting people vote early. They are closing some of the voting places and moving them out into the rural areas which makes it hard for voters who don't have a car. They can of course go by bus or taxi but that costs money to do and some of these people are already strapped for cash. There are even places that are not providing restrooms for voters who may be in line to vote.

    These are the kind of tricks they are playing in order to keep them from voting. They should be making it easier for people to vote not harder.

  • UK could you be a little more specific on who works for peanuts and how the republicans are suppressing the vote?

  • I wouldn't know.... I am a registered Independent. And that's right... you play what you are dealt. As far as winning elections and playing nasty just look at how the Republicans are suppressing the vote. They know they can't win on their policies so they are suppressing the vote.

    As far as your "elephant" they never forget, lead each other around by the tail and think everyone should work for peanuts.

  • It doesn't matter the skin color or tone ukfan for someone to dislike, not trust, or hate another. It has to do what they do, how they do it, and why they do what they do that gives people reasons.

    The race card is getting played out. It's a marked card that everyone sees in the stacked deck that Liberals use regularly. You can't win elections on failed policies so throwing the race card is what Liberals do among other nasty tactics.

    Shameful to be associated with such intolerant individuals like the Democratic Party. No wonder their mascot is an a$$. They all act like one everyday.

  • Probably.....

  • where Obama is President and gas prices have gone up (and down) so it is all Obama's fault because he is black, can't you see he's black?

    This is getting tiresome.. Someone needs to teach you that race has nothing to do with disagreeing with your messiah because he's black.

    BTW he's not black idgit he's mixed race doesn't that mean I hate him because he's white too?

  • n4s, didn't you read, there was a demand before the full wieght of the Chinese governement flooded the market...so your hindsight is 20-20 when it comes to your biased attacks of the President...but very nearsighted when it come to reading the facts.   Here, let me recall it for your edification.

    "When the company announced the long-term contracts in 2008, solar panel prices were higher and developers of solar projects were scrambling for supply. As a result, three companies committed to three-year or five-year contracts that were touted in the 2008 press release, according to Ben Bierman, the company's vice president of operations.

    However, the solar panel market soon changed. China began pouring billions of dollars of subsidies into panel manufacturing, driving prices much lower. A dearth of supply soon became a global glut."

  • Solyndra was an American company...why do you hate America?   

    Ok D man, this one confused me. I know that Solyndra was an American company, and that was my point.  By stipulating that the funds be used to buy American built products, American companies would have gotten the business in spite of Chinese chicanery.  Thos eof you who are of the liberal persuasion have cried for years about supply side economics, yet when the chosen one decides to pour government funds into green energy companies, effectivly engaging in supply side economics, it's all good.  My idea would have funded the demand side. I'm sure you understand that if there is a demand those that have a good product will be able to fill it.

    For your consideration, if Somalia had a larger industrial base would they have less pirates?

  • Obama Fan's simplist thinking is on display here in spades, where Obama is President and gas prices have gone up (and down) so it is all Obama's fault because he is black, can't you see he's black?  I gots news for ye'  O'Fan, correlation does not imply causation.  For example did you know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of pirates since the 1800s?  Or that Somalia has the largest number of pirates and the lowest carbon emissions of any country? 
     

  • N4S"...with the stipulation that American built components were to  be used."

    Solyndra was an American company...why do you hate America?   

  • ER ah, my bad $535 is a half Billion...oopps. Sorry.  

  • need4speed, April 15, 2014 12:46PM

    "Ummm 33314, yes it was.  Check the historical data."

    UMMM, I was here.

    "On the Solyndra thing, we would have gotten more bang for our buck if the half billion dollars wouls have been given as subsidies for individuals to install 10 to 15 kilowatt home solar arrays, with the stipulation that American built componentswere to  be used."

    ER ah, that would be million and not billion, right-o?  BIG difference.  Hindsight is 20-20...but who knew what chicanery that the wiley Chinese government had in store for them.  If the US government had subsidized Solyndra like the Chinese government subsidized the 3 companies, Solyndra might still be in business.  The didn't go under because they had bad ideas, like you guys are insinuating.

    IN fact, Solydra is suing three Chinese solar panel makers for allegedly conspiring to drive them and other U.S. manufacturers out of business.

    Solyndra, recipient of a $535 million loan guarantee from the Department of Energy's Stimulus fund, filed for bankruptcy in 2011, generating a media-driven firestorm of criticism of the administration's stimulus fund-backed renewable energy program.

  • Q-Solyndra was undercut by the Chinese government...what private startup company could withstand that kind of attack and remain solvent?

      The Bush administration gave a pass for federal funding of this company on the companies merits alone even though after signing the DOE bill to start a loan program in 2005 and it was chosen as one of the 143 companies approved to apply, something spooked the bean counters about this company and it was given a pass by the Bush administration in January 2009. 

    The messiah added a new qualifying title to the loan program in March 2009 that Solyndra all but  automatically qualified for under his stimulus green energy tax payer program. And other "Green Energy" programs would soon follow Solyndra's lead of being a total waste of tax payer money for a pipe dream.

    Until we have leadership that will stand up to countries like China, unlike what we have today, this is going to happen no matter what bean counters say is a general risk for up and coming businesses that fail and then look for excuses for that/those failure(s).

     

  • Ummm 33314, yes it was.  Check the historical data.

    On the Solyndra thing, we would have gotten more bang for our buck if the half billion dollars wouls have been given as subsidies for individuals to install 10 to 15 kilowatt home solar arrays, with the stipulation that American built componentswere to  be used. 

    Tesla Motors is doing fine and paid back their money.But that's one out of how many?

  • (snicker @ "fling boogers out into the void")

    Ain't that the truth.

  • Fifth graders:


    Gasoline prices were unusually low when Barack Obama took office due to a number of factors (weakened demand, bleak economic outlook, failure by OPEC members to cut production) that sent crude oil prices plummeting to their lowest level in several years at the end of 2008. The average price of a gallon of gasoline in the U.S. had topped $4.00 per gallon in mid-2008, a level it hasn't reached since.

  • Solyndra was undercut by the Chinese government...what private startup company could withstand that kind of attack and remain solvent.  

    When the company announced the long-term contracts in 2008, solar panel prices were higher and developers of solar projects were scrambling for supply. As a result, three companies committed to three-year or five-year contracts that were touted in the 2008 press release, according to Ben Bierman, the company's vice president of operations.

    However, the solar panel market soon changed. China began pouring billions of dollars of subsidies into panel manufacturing, driving prices much lower. A dearth of supply soon became a global glut.

    At the same time, cash-strapped European countries cut incentives for installing solar power projects. As a result, none of the three companies have placed significant orders under their contracts with Solyndra this year, Bierman said.

     

  • Fifth graders...you know, before you fling boogers out into the void, you can look this stuff up.

    The price of gas has a LOT more to do with investor trading on Wall Street than anything else.

    "New York's main contract and oil price benchmark West Texas Intermediate (WTI) for April delivery rose $0.11 to $101.56 a barrel, after reaching as low as $100.13 a barrel in intraday trading. The volume of all futures traded was around 42% over the 100-day average."

  • Gas was not $1.68 when Bush left office

  • Solyndra is the $535 MILLION company....