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Well Obama had the solar panels installed on The White House....the cost? Classified security reasons....I wonder if he got them from Solyndra the solar panel company who got $535 MILLIION TAXPAYER $'s only to go bankrupt.  Hey the good news is he plans on SPENDING $2 BILLION more making federal buildings more "energy effecient"  I wonder how many years it will take to break even and save $2 BILLION ? Well he isn't done he is gonna create a training program for 50,000 new solar industry workers by 2020.  I hate to break the news folks but if you believe he is going to create 50,000,,,,,say that again 50,000 solar jobs in less than 6 years.   Then you are as dumb as he is!

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  • BEEGEE428, it does not pay to try to take the high road with morons, really.  All that these people understand is ridicule as they have no understanding of facts, respect for logic and reason and those who have command of the truth.  This isn't just about a gentleperson's disagreement with another opinion, it is about the complete abandonment of the facts.  It is the duty of every conscious entity to call those people out and publicly dissect them with the only thing that they understand. The world would be a much better place if we all did that...or at least we all would feel better then.;-) 

  • Doesn't matter who said what first...two wrongs don't make a right.  It also doesn't matter whether this is an itty bitty local paper or a national forum.  We all need to treat each other with respect.  The world would be a much better place if everyone weren't so self-involved and thought of others first.

  • Beegee428....agreed, but after he/she called my (our) president dumb, I think I have the right to call him/her whatever want to since other than spouting crap on a itty bitty newspaper only read by locals he/she has not given me reason to show respect.

  • dailyvowelmovement, May 14, 2014 3:18PM

    "The company got the "taxpayer" dollars under the stimulus act....enacted by GEORGE BUSH and approved by congress. 

    get your *!&@! facts straight you bigot hick moron."

     

    beegee428, May 14, 2014 3:36PM

    "@daily....if you want to state your opinion, state it, but leave out the name calling and (implied) nasty language.  Show a little class!"

     

    But Obama Fan's post are classless, bigoted and moronic.  Plus, he started it by calling any one who does not believe his bigoted moronic drivel and President Obama dumb.   

  • n4s, I think that I do know where they went.

     

    Where Did the Carter White House's Solar Panels Go?

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/carter-white-house-solar-panel-array/?print=true

    One of the 32 solar-thermal panels that captured energy on the roof of the White House more than 30 years ago landed this week at a science museum in China

    Aug 6, 2010 |By David Biello 

    The White House itself once harvested the power of the sun. On June 20, 1979, the Carter administration installed 32 panels designed to harvest the sun's rays and use them to heat water.

    Here is what Carter predicted at the dedication ceremony: "In the year 2000 this solar water heater behind me, which is being dedicated today, will still be here supplying cheap, efficient energy…. A generation from now, this solar heater can either be a curiosity, a museum piece, an example of a road not taken or it can be just a small part of one of the greatest and most exciting adventures ever undertaken by the American people."

    For some of the solar panels it is the former that has come to pass: one resides at theSmithsonian's National Museum of American History, one at the Carter Library and, as of this week, one will join the collection of the Solar Science and Technology Museum in Dezhou, China. Huang Ming, chairman of Himin Solar Energy Group Co., the largest manufacturer of such solar hot water heaters in the world, accepted the donation for permanent display there on August 5. After all, companies like his in China now produce some 80 percent of the solar water heaters used in the world today.

    But they are based on the same technology developed here in the U.S. and once manufactured in Warrentown, Va., by InterTechnology/Solar Corp., the company behind the Carter panels.* Roughly three meters long, one meter wide and just 10 centimeters deep, the blue-black panels absorb sunlight to heat water piped through their innards. The Carter administration set a goal of deriving 20 percent of U.S. energy needs from such renewable sources by the turn of the century. Today, the U.S. gets a mere 7 percent of its energy from renewables, the bulk of that from the massive hydroelectric dams constructed in the middle of the 20th century. Solar thermal and photovoltaic technology combined provide less than 0.1 percent.

    By 1986, the Reagan administration had gutted the research and development budgets for renewable energy at the then-fledgling U.S. Department of Energy (DoE) and eliminated tax breaks for the deployment of wind turbines and solar technologies—recommitting the nation to reliance on cheap but polluting fossil fuels, often from foreign suppliers. "The Department of Energy has a multibillion-dollar budget, in excess of $10 billion," Reagan said during an election debate with Carter, justifying his opposition to the latter's energy policies. "It hasn't produced a quart of oil or a lump of coal or anything else in the line of energy."

    And in 1986 the Reagan administration quietly dismantled the White House solar panel installation while resurfacing the roof. "Hey! That system is working. Why don't you keep it?" recalls mechanical engineer Fred Morse, now of Abengoa Solar, who helped install the original solar panels as director of the solar energy program during the Carter years and then watched as they were dismantled during his tenure in the same job under Reagan. "Hey! This whole [renewable] R&D program is working, why don't you keep it?"

    After they came down it took a soft-spoken administrator from a small environmental college in Maine to rescue the Carter panels from being a forgotten curiosity stored in the dark corner of a vast government warehouse.

    Read the whole story at the web site above.

  • I agree...we don't need that

  • @daily....if you want to state your opinion, state it, but leave out the name calling and (implied) nasty language.  Show a little class!

  • The company got the "taxpayer" dollars under the stimulus act....enacted by GEORGE BUSH and approved by congress.

     

    get your *!&@! facts straight you bigot hick moron.

  • I see no reason to classify the cost. Other than that, I have no problem with this. Lot's of companies (including the one I work for) are installing solar arrays on their facilities. Solar isn't a total solution, but every little bit helps. I've been shopping for an 8 to 10Kw system myself.

    As far as the water heater panels go, what kind of condition were they in when they came down? Were they damaged during removal and not put back up? Are they in the basement gathering dust? I can't say, and I don't tink you can either.

  • Solar panels are back on the White House roof, 28 years later (it's about time!) 

    On June 20, 1979, President Carter had 32 solar thermal panelsinstalled to generate hot water, but the panels were taken down (and not reinstalled intentionally) while the roof was being resurfaced in 1986 while Reagan was president....the symbolism was quite important!

    While the White House's solar array was never big enough to make a huge difference by itself, the symbolism was again quite important, so it was great news when in 2010 the Obama administration announced that it would re-installed solar panels on the roof of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!  The White House looks to a brighter, cleaner energy future with solar.  It is the shape of things to come.

  • http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-energy/installation-solar-panels-white-house-now-completed-about-time.html