Israel or Illegals

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Which is more important saving the lives of our great ally Israel or Illegals?  President Obama attacking "partisan politics".  Israel is in great need for more iron dome missile defense rockets.  So a bill is introduced to help fund it. What do Democrats do?  They say okay you can have your rockets,  well kinda sorta, we are gonna attach the Democratic version of immigration reform to it.  Well Mr President are we gonna let people of Israel die? Because your party is playing partisan politics?  That is no different than a pork bill something else you PROMISED to go line by line and remove and have NOT.  Ye I know you will get back to us when you get back from one of those $35,000 a plate fundraisers. Maybe you don't care because Israelis arent potential future voters in your eyes.

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  • Good thing he wasn’t born a crow… because then he would be accused of cannibalism.

    Are slugs born or do they just leak up out of the earth like a worm?

  • And BrunoUno cannot prove that human rights begin at all. And that is my point.

    Good thing he wasn’t born a crow… because then he would be accused of cannibalism.

  • You shoulda been born black...maybe that would have taught you some perspective...maybe...

    It seems all it's taught you to be is racist. If in fact you are black.

  • "Recognition that God exists has been the subject of legislation.  Does BrunoUno take this as a proof?  No?

    Not even I would take legislation as a proof.  Take a lot of logic classes in his edumacation, did he?

    As to whether or not America was a better place in 1860 versus today... well, all I can say is that I know which one I prefer.  Smile.

    I am a confused and self-absorbed caucasian?  Well he got one out of three right."

    Translation: You cannot prove that life and thus human rights begin at conception.  That is all that you had to say really.  Philosophy majors!  You shoulda been born black...maybe that would have taught you some perspective...maybe...

  • robert1

    August 1, 2014 4:31PM

    "Snort!"

    What are you, a pig for real?

  • Snort!

    Recognition that God exists has been the subject of legislation.  Does BrunoUno take this as a proof?  No?

    Not even I would take legislation as a proof.  Take a lot of logic classes in his edumacation, did he?

    As to whether or not America was a better place in 1860 versus today... well, all I can say is that I know which one I prefer.  Smile.

    I am a confused and self-absorbed caucasian?  Well he got one out of three right.

  • robert1, July 31, 2014 10:49AM

    "Oh and by the way, one doesn't have to "try" to put a happy face.  South Africa is a worse and lesser place than it was thirty years ago... and for all communities concerned... regardless of what the self-satisfied Euro-American establishment wish to tell itself."

    Yeah, and America was better off in 1860 when the n'gras were slaves and you people were taking good care of them, right'O.  You are one cornfused self-absorbed caucsian.  

     

    "...if human rights begin at birth, prove it scientifically.’

    No?

    Then shut up.

    It is the law, you know, status quo.  It is not encumbent upon me or anyone else to prove the status quo, but rather it is encumbent upon you to prove why we should change it.  So, if human rights begin at conception, prove it scientifically.  I'll pop some popcorn cuz this is gonna be good.

     

     

  • robert1 I think you may have shut him up for once and for all with this:

    BrunoUno hateth communal religion. He hates white supremacy. He hates sexism (whatever that means). He hates treating loathsome pervs as they justly deserve.... The list could go on. Don’t let him give you his, ‘I love and respect everyone’ rubbish. He respects and loves… anyone who holds exactly the same values as he does. He loves himself. Often. From what I understand. I may be a hater, but BrunoUno—a person (?) replete with information (occasionally useful) but bereft of thought—is a self-absorbed hypocrite.

     

  • Oh and by the way, one doesn't have to "try" to put a happy face.  South Africa is a worse and lesser place than it was thirty years ago... and for all communities concerned... regardless of what the self-satisfied Euro-American establishment wish to tell itself.

  • Blasphemy: "Criminal utterance, either oral or written, maliciously casting disrepute upon God, His name, attributes, or religion." Black’s Law Dictionary.

    Does BrunoUno respect the law? This law? Or would he ever? Didn’t think so.  As such, one should feel no duty to take his "law" seriously either.  His quoted "law" stems from a premise of one world unity and human equality.  Those are his values, not mine, and not everyone else's.

    To his tiresome response regard Blasphemy law, a response which is doubtless coming, I ask yet again,

    ‘if human rights begin at birth, prove it scientifically.’

    No?

    Then shut up.

    I am quite willing to accept being called a "hater." Although it is ironic.

    BrunoUno hateth communal religion. He hates white supremacy. He hates sexism (whatever that means). He hates treating loathsome pervs as they justly deserve.... The list could go on. Don’t let him give you his, ‘I love and respect everyone’ rubbish. He respects and loves… anyone who holds exactly the same values as he does. He loves himself. Often. From what I understand.

    I may be a hater, but BrunoUno—a person (?) replete with information (occasionally useful) but bereft of thought—is a self-absorbed hypocrite.

  • Trying to put a happy face on the crime of apartheid.  Spoken like a true Hatriot!

    Stop trying to change the subject, which was "Apartheid is not criminal."  Obviously it is regardless of what you are disgusted about...who cares?

  • That African Mandela,now that was a criminal!

    Terrorist wasn't he? Didn't he and his wife act like an African version of the Weather Underground?

    So much hate..

    You confuse hate with disgust. 

  • No not criminal.  That African Mandela, now that was a criminal!  Good riddance!

  • Also, 

    "The Geneva Conventions commit States to a policy of nondiscrimination in treating the sick and wounded, the shipwrecked and stranded, captured combatants and civilians under an occupation regime or caught up in conflict. Apartheid has also been labeled a war crime in international conflicts under Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions. Protocol I lists as grave breaches apartheid “and other inhuman and degrading practices involving outrages upon personal dignity, based on racial discrimination,” though these would only be grave breaches during international armed conflict."

    - See more at: http://www.crimesofwar.org/a-z-guide/apartheid/#sthash.H63las6W.dpuf"

  • Well, yeah it is criminal.

    "The crime of apartheid is defined by the 2002 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court as inhumane acts of a character similar to other crimes against humanity "committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime."

    On 30 November 1973, the United Nations General Assembly opened for signature and ratification the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid (ICSPCA)[1] It defined the crime of apartheid as "inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them.""

  • Apartheid is not criminal.  It is quite reasonable, when one's land is infested with aliens.

  • "I don't cave into the BS you and your ilk spew, fight you at every chance I get and you think you can see into my soul?"

    What soul...you have none?

  • SF...I totally agree...got to be hard on one's health being that way all the time.

  • So much hate...

  • Someone who reads your awful crap and looks into that window you provide that lets us see the place where your soul should be. But hey...

    That's all you got? I don't cave into the BS you and your ilk spew, fight you at every chance I get and you think you can see into my soul? Man are you full of yourself for what. Only proof you provided for anything is that you are a racist and everyone here sees that daily.

  • "Who the he!! are you to decide what my God says will happen to me at that time?"

    Someone who reads your awful crap and looks into that window you provide that lets us see the place where your soul should be. But hey...

  • You can dream about the days of the Rapture coming soon, but in the unlikely event that that should ever occur, you will fail to meet the criteria and thus be left behind if there is any justice in the universe. Just callin' 'em like I sees 'em.

    You posted the very same crap over on another subject except for your judgement of what will happen to me and the Rapture. Who the he!! are you to decide what my God says will happen to me at that time? And now you say it's the unlikely event it will happen? That's called flip flop since you are so sure there is no God. But hey

    Just call'em like you post them....You're anti-semitic, you hate the Jewish people and are just like the others and wish them dead. Quit being an Uncle Tom stand your ground try to be a man for once will ya.

    Fry you couldn't burn a piece of paper properly with a lit match. I don't sweat you, didn't ever have too..

  • Israel is not "right" to operate a system of total control in the Israeli-occupied West Bank! Hogwash! It is not "anti-semitic" to recognize that what Israel is doing there as a criminal apartheid system, including Jewish-only settlements, the ID system, separate roads for Israeli and Palestinian citizens, military checkpoints, discriminatory marriage law, the West Bank barrier, use of Palestinians as cheap labour, Palestinian West Bank enclaves, inequities in infrastructure, legal rights, and access to land and resources between Palestinians and Israeli residents in theIsraeli-occupied territories resembles some aspects of the South African apartheid regime, and that elements of Israel's occupation constitute forms of colonialism and of apartheid, which are contrary to international law.[4]Some commentators extend the analogy, or accusation, to include Arab citizens of Israel, describing their citizenship status as second-class.

    You can dream about the days of the Rapture coming soon, but in the unlikely event that that should ever occur, you will fail to meet the criteria and thus be left behind if there is any justice in the universe. Just callin' 'em like I sees 'em.

  • PFP: "Oh ouchh that really hurt...lmao"

    It wasn't meant as a "burn". Just callin' 'em like I sees 'em.

  • If that is not rue, then why do clowns like you support Israel right or wrong?  

    For the same reason an a$$ hat like you can support illegals crossing the border. Because I can and Israel is right in what they are doing. I don't see you speaking out against the black gangs in Chicago killing one another over corner drug terrortories, or any major city that is having that problem, but then again birds of the same feathers flock together so there you go.

    Anti-semitics like you are a dime a dozen any more and you think you're winning but you're not. You're racist and ignorant to think a people have no reason to live in peace and defend themselves while another wants to wipe them from the planet.

    Maybe the same principles that Hamas and you support should be applied to those who are infected with Ebola virus. After all you do refer to religion as a disease right?

  • We all know what that is about...the Rapture...the Jews have to be in Israel or HE won't come back (since HE is a Jew).  LOL if it weren't so pathetic.  

    Racist much are you?

    If that is not rue, then why do clowns like you support Israel right or wrong?  

     

    robert1, July 28, 2014 5:08PM

    "Russia is not an aggressor for reclaiming land inhabited by Russians. The offspring at the Mexican border are not refugees."

    That is insane! 

     

    robert1, : "And perhaps it is Gaza which "is in great need for more iron dome defense rockets."

    That is true, but it is gonna take a lot more than that to stop the bloodthirsty Israelis from their genocide.  They are attacking folks with rocks with their American made tanks, drones and F-16s...a fact that is not lost on the rest of the Arab world, I will assure you.

  • And if I were you I'd be a line of asterisks. Thankfully, I'm not. :o)

    Oh ouchh that really hurt...lmao  Truth hurts doesn't it Fry...

    And perhaps it is Gaza which "is in great need for more iron dome defense rockets."

    That's funny right there...But you get what you ask for in this case they get what they have forced upon themsleves and then try to spin propaganda to make it look like it's all Israels fault.

    Wonder if there's a White House connection to their press office? Their press briefings do look familiar....Talk about of non sense no one understands, avoids the answers, spins questions and lies...

    Yep looks dam familiar...

  • Russia is not an aggressor for reclaiming land inhabited by Russians. Not that would be any of our business in any event.

    The offspring at the Mexican border are not refugees.

    And perhaps it is Gaza which "is in great need for more iron dome defense rockets."

  • And if I were you I'd be a line of asterisks. Thankfully, I'm not. :o)

  • I know all about Cantor...who lost his primary election which means he is out as soon as this term ends this year so he does not count.

    Typical Socialist spin.

    We all know what that is about...the Rapture...the Jews have to be in Israel or HE won't come back (since HE is a Jew).  LOL if it weren't so pathetic.  

    Racist much are you?

    Editorial cartoon: "WWJD? (Who Would Jesus Deport?)"

    If I was you Fry I'd be careful what you say. Your whole family has enjoyed White Privilege even against other whites let alone people of other races.

  • I know all about Cantor...who lost his primary election which means he is out as soon as this term ends this year so he does not count.  There are no Repubican Jews who have not been expelled by their constituents in the US House, so where does all of this support Israel right or wrong and at great expense stuff come from?  We all know what that is about...the Rapture...the Jews have to be in Israel or HE won't come back (since HE is a Jew).  LOL if it weren't so pathetic.  

    So, here we are in 2014 still basing public policy that is costing us $16,000 per American on an old book of Jewish fairy tales (that they Jews wrote) that claims that they are God's chosen people (naturally) and so we had better support them with our treasure and blood or else

  • Editorial cartoon: "WWJD? (Who Would Jesus Deport?)"
     

  • Eric Cantor R-VA.  That's one...and one only. And he is lame duckin' .The rest (21) are Democrats.

  • pitchforkedtongue: " Your claim of not one single Jewish republican is false as well. Just shows exactly how much you really know.. Again."

    Well then, please enlighten me...who are all of those Jewish U.S. House of Representative members again out of 233?

  • need4speed, July 27, 2014 10:06AM

    "Suppose, for just a minute, that somebody-anybody was lobbing missiles into our country. Even if our defenses were working perectly, how long do you think the American people would put up with that? Plus, the stated goal of Hamas is the destruction of Israel. Kinda sounds to me like the Israelis have a case. Doesn't sound like miltary adventurism to me. just sayin..."

    You missed the whole point dewd...as usual.  If Mexico was lobbing missles into Texas we would not tolerate it for a moment...as we shouldn't.  We would probably take some military action to halt such a practice, but we would pay for that action out of our own tax dollars and not try to get Canada to pay for it all.  Israel is like a puppet on our lap that we pay $3 Billion (21%) of its military budget.

    If the American government took the $15-$20 billion it gives Israel every year and put it into a savings account for the 4.5 million babies born p/yr, every American would receive $8,000-$10,500 upon turning 18 years old. In another option, the US government could give the money away in a lottery and make 15k-20k Americans millionaires every year. Either of these options would provide an incredible boost to the US economy. But the truth is that $15-$20 billion per year is probably just scratching the surface when we look at the cost of America’s relationship with Israel.

    US aid to Israel costs 275,000 American jobs per year due to unfair trade imbalances and sanctions on Israel’s enemies. In one example of under the table aid, Stauffer pointed out that the US actually gave Russia and Romania billions of dollars in undeclared aid to facilitate Jews moving to Israel. The US has also spent hundreds of billions in the region to secure friendly relationships with Israel. John McCain admitted in an interview that US aid to Egypt is really just a bribe so the Egyptians will maintain friendly relations with Israel. The US has also given Turkey and Greece billions for the same purpose. The cost of America’s relationship to Israel today adjusted for inflation and including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is likely to be in excess of $5 trillion, or $16k per American.

    This expenditure is something that any true conservative should be up in arms about, considering just how bat crap crazy they are about spending far less money to help some children who are refugees from the 3 most dangerous central American countries in the world. 

    Most Americans view Israel as an ally on the front lines fighting terrorists so Americans don’t have to, but nothing could be further from the truth. The few Islamic terrorist attacks on America in the last 50 years were all a result of America’s support for the Israeli apartheid regime. After September 11, 2001, the media claimed the terrorists attacked because they: “hated our freedom.” The terrorists however stated on record that they attacked America because of its support for Israel. After all, if terrorists were going to attack a country because of its freedom they would have attacked the Netherlands or Switzerland.

  •  Unlike Dubya, President Obama can do many things at once.

    The messiah isn't doing the right things for the country. That's about par for a fundementalist that see's America's place in the world as a problem not an encouragment for freedom. I believe freedom is why you chose to come across the border isn't it?

    That is a false choice...nobody in charge is having to choose between doing one or the other.

    Wrong, as usual. When the so called leader of a free nation chooses to ignore willingly the advice on situations to take actions against aggressors like Iran, Hamas, Russia,and ISIS then he freely is making a choice and he puts as much distance as he can between himself and those decisions. 

    His domestic policies are a joke, and he has no foregin policies. Maybe he should schedule a block party on the Israel/Palestinian border. I believe that a janitor, excuse me domestic enviromental engineer would have a better chance at getting peace than John "goon face" Kerry. 

    An inept individual always surrounds themselves with inept personnel.

    Maybe you just haven't been paying attention (again) or you would know that the iron dome is alive and working well in Israel, thanks to American money that we could be using here at home on all of these child refugees!

    Of course you on purpose leave out the part where American tax payer dollars is being given to Palestine which in turn funds the rockets that are used to attact Isarel. American tax payer dollars that are being sent to Central America to fund corrupt officals that inturn  take money from the drug cartels as well. Refugees my a$$...Invited illegalls is more like it. 

    We do not need an explaination from you why you hate America it's evident in your posts. Your claim of not one single Jewish republican is false as well. Just shows exactly how much you really know.. Again.

    Congress has Democratic Jewish members but we all know where they stand and who they stand with and for. But I see a great change coming in that..

  • Suppose, for just a minute, that somebody-anybody was lobbing missiles into our country. Even if our defenses were working perectly, how long do you think the American people would put up with that? Plus, the stated goal of Hamas is the destruction of Israel. Kinda sounds to me like the Israelis have a case. Doesn't sound like miltary adventurism to me. just sayin...

     

  • BTW, with all of this right-wing talk about fully supporting the military adventures of Israel, one would thing that this House is full of Jews...but its not!  There is not a single Republican Jew in the entire 233 members of the House of Representatives.  Not one!

    I guess that is because Israelis don't vote here in America.

  • "Which is more important saving the lives of our great ally Israel or Illegals?"

    That is a false choice...nobody in charge is having to choose between doing one or the other. Why would you rather spend our tax dollars for Israel's loose cannon military than on things here at home?  Why do yo hate America?  Are you Jewsih? Unlike Dubya, President Obama can do many things at once.  Dubya couldn't do one thing at a time, which is why Dick was in charge.  

    People in Israel are not dying in Israel from the rockets in any numbers, as only 29 have died from rocket AND MORTAR attacks in the last 10 YEARS!  Only 3 people in Israel have died from these attacks this year, and 2 of those were from mortar shells that the iron dome cannot prevent. There has been only one rocket death since November 15, 2012!

    Maybe you just haven't been paying attention (again) or you would know that the iron dome is alive and working well in Israel, thanks to American money that we could be using here at home on all of these child refugees!  

    The sky is falling, the sky is falling, eh, Chicken Little?

    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/rocket-deaths-israel.html