State police shoot, kill man pointing gun at them

Door bad phone spell check I'd just like to say I do not condone domestic violence when you look At this person that plays games like that jail card he never abused her. But she's out she should Face charges. And I hope they push for it at some point she has to face a penalty it cost him His life for repetedly lying and having people thrown in jail she's not a victim. She's just deviant..

I know that quote victim that plays the game of having people thrown in jail that's what she wanted. She had an epo on him he was moving on she came to his house Friday night she violated her own Epo he was drinking as we all have in our own home she picked the fight she dumped his beer down The sink he kicked her out and locked the door. She called the police get again trying go get him arrested. They kicked in his food she violated her own epo why couldn't it have been civil why not knockk Why not let him explain. Why kick in the door unfortunately he supposedly had a gun. If Someone was kicking your door in and you'd been drinking would it not freak you out. It's your home. No I don't think he waved gun at police but think he had and he's dead. She faces no punishment She sat outside. He was in his home he didn't bother her she violated her epo against him. That's not justice just a guy having drinks in his house on a Friday night.

Turley said a background check showed Demaree had warrants for fourth-degree assault and second-degree burglary. Ok, now where is the background of the victim. I have lived on the other side of domestic violence from my first wife & she loved to smack constantly until the one day I finally got tired of it & struck her back. I am not ashamed to admit it because I put up with her smacking for over six years & never put a hand on her. I honestly thought she would grow out of it & mature but she never did. The very moment I finally got fed up with it & struck her back, guess who went to jail? Good Ole me was made to look like a violent abuser with her lies & pitiful crocodile tears. I made up my mind & left her but after three months of her begging me to come back & swearing that she woyuld change, she only got worse. They never change. I know first hand how a woman like her will play the system that is set up so one sided against the man that it is pathetic! That is why I never believe in the system or most woman (wether right or wrong) when it comes to accusations of abuse. Most women probally are truthful but some will play it for all it is worth & it is easy to destroy a guy with lying. How many men are shot to death by police over domestic violence. Any other call of a man with a gun in his house would had been treated differently. The police would had never gone in to confront him with a possible shootout. They most certainly would had done things different. Just look at the standoff we just had recently . Let a woman cry foul & the police will automatically get into a gung ho mode & risk life. A woman should never be struck by a man, up to a certain point but most abusive women think that just because they are a woman then they can & should get by with abusing a man without any consequences & will legally blackmail their victim if they strike back. I never claim to be perfect or know it all but I know our system is corrupted when it comes to domestic violence & I know that I had a limit on getting abused, female or not! Legally or not, it should work BOTH WAYS. Men feels pain also!

I'm curious to know if he was on an SSRI antidepressant; would anyone know? It seems to me that's the case in so many of these "out of character" acts of violence lately.

968: The fact that the man did not fire his weapon is a strong indicator that he wasn't wanting to face ANYTHING anymore. ownow: browncow, you may just be on to something there ;-) Evil, you may be on to something there too.

Evil, the story says they responded to a domestic violence call and found a battered woman in the driveway so I don't think the people are assuming too much if they said he beat women. Regarding your friend in prison, how long is a "few years"? Our self defense laws got overhauled in 2006. http://www.lrc.ky.gov/krs/503-00/050.PDF

God I hate people in Frankfort...Always assume and believe....I've known Paul for years and though we had not been in touch for a while it is ridiculous all of these stories. No one knows if he beats or did beat women, he sure wasn't married and he was always fun and respectful---this coming from a woman who has known him since high school. Unles you are behind the doors and was with him all the time don't judge because WE dont know what you do behind closed doors. he has a duaghter and she shouldn't have to be subjected to this crap. And the poilce felt justified in shooting him 7 times for pointing a gun yet I remember a case a few yrs ago where a man was defending himself from someone who held a gun to him and he unloaded the clip--yet he's in jail serving his time. What happed to them just shooting them in the hand, leg, knee cap to take them out but not kill them?????? Then let a jury of his peers decide his fate from the evidence.

He would have had the chance to face his accuser had he not pointed his weapon at officers.

Sounds like a classic case of suicide-by-police. Maybe the police should have also run over him with their car...just to be sure.

While not being a big fan of SJ, I'm convinced that most posters know a whole lot less than they do as evidenced by the previous posts. These posters that supposedly know Paul don't even know that the woman involved was not his wife as they state and he was not married. As for the "one less abuser" comment, I could only hope someone making that bold speculation would also go through and experience the turmoil of being falsely accused without being proven or convicted. And don't be so quick to automatically be sympathetic to a woman with a sordid background, history and seeing multiple men at the same time (to try and put it mildly). Have you considered whether he might have been the one to be suffering from abuse instead of her or at least as much as her? His opportunity to face his accuser was taken from him. Remember, he was not married. It was HIS house. She did not live or reside there... How can conclude that he "lived a horrid life, making others suffer, so I'm glad he can't do that any longer. Great job Troopers!"? It sure sounds like his neighbors for many years (and many others that knew him) did not have this same sentiment. Bodeen, I can't say that I am always in agreement with you but you are the only one on the right track and raise very valid questions - as many more exist. There will be much more to this story but that probably won't be reported in SJ (or at least buried). One note, did you notice how the KSP statement said he died from A gunshot wound but it was the coroner who OPENLY stated 7 gsw's, hmm. And yes, while I don't claim to be an expert, I do beleive they are trained to shoot to kill not wound - and I understand why. Just because one single woman claims some kind of abuse, doesn't justify others being judge and jury (and executioner as the trooper was in this case). Maybe he was abusive but we'll never get the chance to prove it. Everything in this situation hinges on ONE persons accusations.

My point was how many times has the state journal had the story right on the first print & yet people were knocking down a dead man. The Evolution in action comment doesn't even make sense in this situation. I do have a question though. When did the state troopers started going into houses with a armed person inside? If everybody remembers the last stand off we had, the police did everything different & nobody was killed even though they were fired upon! Why wasn't some negotiator brought in to try to talk some sense into Paul & calm him down. Last but not least, Did the Trooper know the victim? Just because a man is in his home with a gun in his hand doesn't mean that any troopers were in immediate danger. Again, The city police obviously knows how to handle situations like this in a non-lethal manner.

The fact that he was 'nice' doesn't mean a whole lot. This can be said of many killers in history such as Dahmer, Bundy, and Manson. All of these men knew how to charm. Many sociopaths can be exceedingly charming. It is a behavior they teach themselves. It's not cynical to say they learn to be charming to gain their victim's trust.

I've known Paul's Mother for many years and she's a lovely lady. I also understand that Paul had a fourteen-year old daughter. I, too, have been praying for both the Demaree family and the state trooper and his family. This could happen in any family, and if it did happen in my family, I would hope responses made in the newspaper (that may possibly be read by the family and/or friends) would be supportive and sympathetic.

every time an abuser has consequences people say the same thing about him they say about mass murderers ... "but he was so nice". Are these the same people who always ask "Why didn't she try to get help?" Not beating on YOU does not make someone "nice".

563-so they were supposed to wait for him to shoot first?......had it been 1 or 7 bullets, if one is fatal is that overkill?....what questions does it raise? This is tragic situation a man lost his life another man has to live with taking that life.....then oxygen thieves like you who weren't there make "speculations" just to stoke the for as to presse something inappropriate took place.

Shot 7 times ? This doesn't seem right..did the SJ just pick a number out of the air ? 7 times !

From reading the story it sounds like he did not fire a shot. I understand the troopers firing at him. But seven times?? Sounds like overkill. This raises a lot of questions.

@Enoughalready - What a great post!!! You are so right!!!! @Sandy61 - Great post as well!! You are right!! People should have more compassion for all victims and family members. This is a terrible thing that as happened.

First and foremost GOD is the judge of where our soul goes..a woman was beaten, a man was killed and a state trouper took action. You people should be praying for all three families instead of BASHING...GOD is still in control. Preaching...yes...some of you need a little preaching..I will pray for you...where is your compassion..if you ever had any...

Great post enoughalready

Normally I am a reader and not a poster, but sometimes it is easy to overlook the obvious. First, The troopers that risk their lives for us everyday are people and have a family they deserve the chance to go home to every night. When that chance is threatened by the actions of another, lethal force is a nessecity and not a choice. However - at the very least - a grieving family and an emotionally scarred officer are always left in the wake. Regardless of the circumstances, loss of life is a tragedy. Period. Second - to behindthescenes - I couldn't agree more that "...no one deserves to be in a situation where they are beaten, verbally abused, emotionally abused, or manipulated". What steps did YOU take to get paul help for his behavior and to keep that from happening?

Paul was a alcoholic, woman beater, and a poor excuse for a human being. What happened to him is called Karma! If the ground was transparent; you would see him burning.

Chazrigz- I couldn't agree with your last post more. And to others who may want to hate on me for saying so; I DO know the parties involved personally and no one deserves to be in a situation where they are beaten, verbally abused, emotionally abused, or manipulated. It's sad that the people who claim to have noticed changes in Paul's behavior took no steps to get him help; and even sadder that he is dead (in part) because he wouldn't seek help on his own. However, I don't sympathy for the manner in which he died. He made a decision that cost him his life and he alone is responsible for that act.

To Bodeen: More recent articles from other news sources have clearly stated that Troopers entered the home to talk to Paul and found him with a loaded firearm. No one is foolish enough to think the cops had x-ray vision; but they DID have a battered witness in the driveway who was able to tell them what the scene was like inside; and they proceeded with due caution.

Amazing. People who appear to know nothing about lethal force, giving advice to the police on how to handle a man who's pointing a gun at an officer. The KSP trooper took how long to try to get the guy to disarm himself, putting himself at risk while doing so? The trooper didn't just shoot him on sight, showing that he was exercising restraint while dealing with an armed subject who had already beaten up his wife. And when you make the decision to use deadly force, you shoot until the threat is down, not just take a couple of shots then wait to see if HE is going to kill YOU as a way of thanking you for your kindness. As for deserving it - when people do things that involve deadly force, and have a history of violence as evidenced by their arrest record, what else do you call it? Would it be better if the wife was dead, or the trooper, or a neighbor? How many bites of the apple does a dangerous person get? I'm not going to fake compassion for someone who brought this on himself. Was he having problems? Apparently, but there is no lack of resources for persons who have the sense to ask for help. He chose to be a danger to others, and he suffered the consequences. The trooper did what he was trained to do, and by all appearances he did it professionally. Get over it.

Paul was an alcoholic who could be charming one minute and vicious the next. I am sorry for his family and for the woman who was a victim of his abuse. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected by this tragedy; including the Troopers who had to make a life or death decision. Anytime you point a weapon at a law enforcement officer you know you can expect retaliation in the form of lethal force. Should the Troopers have shot to wound and given Paul a chance to take out one of them? No. I am sure each of the Troopers at the scene did all they could to calm the situation and get Paul to willingly lay down his firearm before they shot. To me this sounds like a guy who knew his life was in a downward spiral and opted for "suicide by cop". That doesn't make his death any easier for those who knew him; or for the family that is grieving his loss. People need to remember that even the guy next door can have a dark side- we never really know what happens behind closed doors until it touches us personally.

We should all remember there are two sides to every story. None of us were there to know what really happened. I've known him for many, many years and he never behaved in this manor. Was it really necessary to shoot him 7 times? I think a single shot would take someone down so that "trained" state troopers could take control of the situation. Please remember that he was someone's son, father and friend and let him rest in peace.

Sounds like they could see enough of him to tell he was pointing a gun at them, bodeen...but it's good you're questioning the scenario.<br /> "The man was taken to Frankfort Regional Medical Center, where he died from a gunshot wound"...really? Maybe that speaks more about the quality of our hospital than the severity of his wound.

Three posters, two I see post often, actually believes the first print of a story & all three seems to think that they either knew this man or he deserved this. If in fact this man aimed a gun at the troopers then they were justified. I personally do not see how the police saw him through the walls of the house or was this man standing in front of a window? The only side of the story the state journal has printed is the police side. " Evolution in action" Really Charles.

I'm so glad none of the troopers suffered physical injury and that the woman is getting help now. I hope she ends up okay. As for the man, well, have to agree with the other posters here. He apparently lived a horrid life, making others suffer, so I'm glad he can't do that any longer. Great job Troopers!

I agree with you chazrigz. Who knew we had common ground?

Good job. One less abuser beating up women. Evolution in action.