The Confederate flag represents Limited Constitutional Federal Government, States Rights, Resistance to Tyranny, and Christian Values and Principles. Thus it represents the same principles as the Betsy Ross U.S.flag--the principles America was founded upon. As America experiments with Globalism, Socialism, and Secular Humanism it is important for patriotic American's to fly the Confederate flag as a reminder of these basic principles. America has 2 choices--1.Reclaim our heritage or 2.we will eventually surrender our Constitution and Sovereignty to the New World Order--a Godless Socialist United Nations. Many Americans have been indoctrinated by Northern Liberal Marxist Socialists to view the Confederate flag as a symbol of racism and bigotry. They are being used and manipulated for political purposes to assist in the conversion of America to socialism and secular humanism. The infamous Communist Karl Marx said "A people separated from their heritage are easily persuaded". This is the real reason they want to destroy and ban Confederate heritage and symbols which are 180 degrees diametrically opposed to Socialism and Secular Humanism. The Communist Vladimir Lenin coined the term "useful idiots". Many white liberals fit this catagory as well as Southern politicians who are helping destroy Confederate principles, heritage, and symbols. Southern Christians who fly the Confederate flag are not the enemy of responsible black Americans who are working to better themselves. It is true that KKK and other groups have misused, misrepresented, and abused the Confederate flag but this should not invalidate the true meaning of this honorable flag in the minds of educated knowledgeable Americans.

THE 10 CAUSES OF THE CIVIL WAR

Historians have long debated the causes of the war and the Southern
perspective differs greatly from the Northern perspective. Based upon the
study of original documents of theWar Between The States (Civil War) era and facts and information published
by Confederate Veterans, Confederate Chaplains, Southern writers and Southern Historians before, during, and after the war, I present the facts, opinions, and conclusions stated in the following article.

Technically the 10 causes listed are reasons for Southern secession. The
only cause of the war was that the South was invaded and responded to
Northern aggression.

I respectfully disagree with those who claim that the War Between the
States was fought over slavery or that the abolition of slavery in the
Revolutionary Era or early Federal period would have prevented war. It is my
opinion that war was inevitable between the North and South due to complex
political and cultural differences. The famous Englishman Winston Churchill
stated that the war between the North and South was one of the most
unpreventable wars in history. The Cause that the Confederate States of
America fought for (1861-1865) was Southern Independence from the United
States of America. Many parallels exist between the War for American
Independence ( 1775-1783 ) and the War for Southern Independence.

There were 10 political causes of the war (causes of Southern Secession) ---one of which was slavery--
which was a scapegoat for all the differences that existed between the North
and South. The Northern industrialists had wanted a war since about 1830 to
get the South's resources ( land-cotton-coal-timber-minerals ) for pennies
on the dollar. All wars are economic and are always between centralists and
decentralists.The North would have found an excuse to invade the South even
if slavery had never existed.

A war almost occurred during 1828-1832 over the tariff when South
Carolina passed nullification laws. The U.S. congress had increased the
tariff rate on imported products to 40% ( known as the tariff of
abominations in Southern States ). This crisis had nothing to do with
slavery. If slavery had never existed --period--or had been eliminated at
the time the Declaration of Independence was written in 1776 or anytime
prior to 1860 it is my opinion that there would still have been a war sooner
or later.

On a human level there were 4 causes of the war--New England Greed--New
England Fanatics--New England Zealots--and New England Hypocrites. During
"So Called Reconstruction" ( 1865-1877 ) the New England Industrialists got
what they had really wanted for 40 years--THE SOUTH'S RESOURCES FOR PENNIES
ON THE DOLLAR. It was a political coalition between the New England economic
interests and the New England fanatics and zealots that caused Southern
secession to be necessary for economic survival and safety of the
population.

1. TARIFF--Prior to the war about 75% of the money to operate the Federal
Government was derived from the Southern States via an unfair sectional
tariff on imported goods and 50% of the total 75% was from just 4 Southern
states--Virginia-North Carolina--South Carolina and Georgia. Only 10%--20%
of this tax money was being returned to the South. The Southern states were
being treated as an agricultural colony of the North and bled dry. John
Randolph of Virginia's remarks in opposition to the tariff of 1820
demonstrates that fact. The North claimed that they fought the war to
preserve the Union but the New England Industrialists who were in control of
the North were actually supporting preservation of the Union to maintain and
increase revenue from the tariff. The industrialists wanted the South to pay
for the industrialization of America at no expense to themselves. Revenue
bills introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives prior to the War
Between the States were biased, unfair and inflammatory to the South.
Abraham Lincoln had promised the Northern industrialists that he would
increase the tariff rate if he was elected president of the United States.
Lincoln increased the rate to a level that exceeded even the "Tariff of
Abominations" 40% rate that had so infuriated the South during the 1828-1832
era ( between 50 and 51% on iron goods). The election of a president that
was Anti-Southern on all issues and politically associated with the New
England industrialists, fanatics, and zealots brought about the Southern
secession movement.

2. CENTRALIZATION VERSUS STATES RIGHTS---The United States of America was
founded as a Constitutional Federal Republic in 1789 composed of a Limited
Federal Government and Sovereign States. The North wanted to and did alter
the form of Government this nation was founded upon. The Confederate States
of America fought to preserve Constitutional Limited Federal Government as
established by Americas founding fathers who were primarily Southern
Gentlemen from Virginia. Thus Confederate soldiers were fighting for rights
that had been paid for in blood by their forefathers upon the battlefields
of the American Revolution. Abraham Lincoln had a blatant disregard for The
Constitution of the United States of America. His War of aggression Against
the South changed America from a Constitutional Federal Republic to a
Democracy ( with Socialist leanings ) and broke the original Constitution.
The infamous Socialist Karl Marx sent Lincoln a letter of congratulations
after his reelection in 1864. A considerable number of European Socialists
came to America and fought for the Union (North).

3. CHRISTIANITY VERSUS SECULAR HUMANISM--The South believed in basic
Christianity as presented in the Holy Bible.The North had many Secular
Humanists ( atheists, transcendentalists and non-Christians ). Southerners
were afraid of what kind of country America might become if the North had
its way. Secular Humanism is the belief that there is no God and that
man,science and government can solve all problems. This philosophy advocates
human rather than religious values. Reference : Frank Conners book "The
South Under Siege 1830-2000."

4. CULTURAL DIFFERENCES--Southerners and Northerners were of different
Genetic Lineages. Southerners were primarily of Western English (original
Britons),Scottish,and Irish linage (Celtic) whereas Northerners tended to be
of Anglo-Saxon and Danish (Viking) extraction. The two cultures had been at
war and at odds for over 1000 years before they arrived in America. Our
ancient ancestors in Western England under King Arthur humbled the Saxon
princes at the battle of Baden Hill ( circa 497 AD --516 AD ). The cultural
differences that contributed to the War Between the States (1861-1865 ) had
existed for 1500 years or more.

5. CONTROL OF WESTERN TERRITORIES--The North wanted to control Western
States and Territories such as Kansas and Nebraska. New England formed
Immigrant Aid Societies and sent settlers to these areas that were
politically attached to the North. They passed laws against slavery that
Southerners considered punitive. These political actions told Southerners
they were not welcome in the new states and territories. It was all about
control--slavery was a scapegoat.

6. NORTHERN INDUSTRIALISTS WANTED THE SOUTH'S RESOURCES. The Northern
Industrialists wanted a war to use as an excuse to get the South's resources
for pennies on the dollar. They began a campaign about 1830 that would
influence the common people of the North and create enmity that would allow
them to go to war against the South. These Northern Industrialists brought
up a morality claim against the South alleging the evils of slavery. The
Northern Hypocrites conveniently neglected to publicize the fact that 5 New
England States ( Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Rhode Island,
and New York ) were primarily responsible for the importation of most of the
slaves from Africa to America. These states had both private and state owned
fleets of ships.

7. SLANDER OF THE SOUTH BY NORTHERN NEWSPAPERS. This political cause ties
in to the above listed efforts by New England Industrialists. Beginning
about 1830 the Northern Newspapers began to slander the South. The
Industrialists used this tool to indoctrinate the common people of the
North. They used slavery as a scapegoat and brought the morality claim up to
a feverish pitch. Southerners became tired of reading in the Northern
Newspapers about what bad and evil people they were just because their
neighbor down the road had a few slaves. This propaganda campaign created
hostility between the ordinary citizens of the two regions and created the
animosity necessary for war. The Northern Industrialists worked poor whites
in the factories of the North under terrible conditions for 18 hours a day
( including children ). When the workers became old and infirm they were
fired. It is a historical fact that during this era there were thousands of
old people living homeless on the streets in the cities of the North. In the
South a slave was cared for from birth to death. Also the diet and living
conditions of Southern slaves was superior to that of most white Northern
factory workers. Southerners deeply resented this New England hypocrisy and
slander.

8. NEW ENGLANDERS ATTEMPTED TO INSTIGATE MASSIVE SLAVE REBELLIONS IN THE
SOUTH. Abolitionists were a small but vocal and militant group in New
England who demanded instant abolition of slavery in the South. These
fanatics and zealots were calling for massive slave uprisings that would
result in the murder of Southern men, women and children. Southerners were
aware that such an uprising had occurred in Santa Domingo in the 1790 era
and that the French (white) population had been massacred. The abolitionists
published a terrorist manifesto and tried to smuggle 100,000 copies into the
South showing slaves how to murder their masters at night. Then when John
Brown raided Harpers Ferry,Virginia in 1859 the political situation became
inflammatory. Prior to this event there had been more abolition societies in the
South than in the North. Lincoln and most of the
Republican Party ( 64 members of congress ) had adopted a political platform
in support of terrorist acts against the South. Some (allegedly including
Lincoln) had contributed monetarily as supporters of John Browns terrorist
activities.. Again slavery was used as a scapegoat for all differences that
existed between the North and South.

9.. SLAVERY. Indirectly slavery was a cause of the war. Most Southerners
did not own slaves and would not have fought for the protection of slavery.
However they believed that the North had no Constitutional right to free
slaves held by citizens of Sovereign Southern States. Prior to the war there
were five times as many abolition societies in the South as in the North.
Virtually all educated Southerners were in favor of gradual emancipation of
slaves. Gradual emancipation would have allowed the economy and labor system
of the South to gradually adjust to a free paid labor system without
economic collapse. Furthermore, since the New England States were
responsible for the development of slavery in America, Southerners saw the
morality claims by the North as blatant hypocrisy. The first state to
legalize slavery had been Massachusetts in 1641 and this law was directed
primarily at Indians. In colonial times the economic infrastructure of the
port cities of the North was dependent upon the slave trade. The first slave
ship in America, "THE DESIRE", was fitted out in Marblehead, Massachusetts.
Further proof that Southerners were not fighting to preserve slavery is
found in the diary of an officer in the Confederate Army of Northern
Virginia. He stated that "he had never met a man in the Army of Northern
Virginia that claimed he was fighting to preserve slavery". If the war had
been over slavery, the composition of the politicians, officers, enlisted
men, and even African Americans would have been different. Confederate
General Robert E. Lee had freed his slaves (Custis estate) prior to 1863
whereas Union General Grant's wife Julia did not free her slaves until after
the war when forced to do so by the 13th amendment to the constitution.
Grant even stated that if the abolitionists claimed he was
fighting to free slaves that he would offer his services to the South.
Mildred Lewis Rutherford ( 1852-1928 ) was for many years the historian for
the United Daughters Of The Confederacy (UDC). In her book Truths Of History
she stated that there were more slaveholders in the Union Army ( 315,000 )
than the Confederate Army ( 200,000 ). Statistics and estimates also show that about
300,000 blacks supported the Confederacy versus about 200,000 for the Union.
Clearly the war would have been fought along different lines if it had been
fought over slavery. The famous English author Charles Dickens stated " the
Northern onslaught upon Southern slavery is a specious piece of humbug
designed to mask their desire for the economic control of the Southern
states."

10, NORTHERN AGGRESSION AGAINST SOUTHERN STATES, Proof that Abraham
Lincoln wanted war may be found in the manner he handled the Fort Sumter
incident. Original correspondence between Lincoln and Naval Captain G.V.Fox
shows proof that Lincoln acted with deceit and willfully provoked South
Carolina into firing on the fort ( A TARIFF COLLECTION FACILITY ). It was
politically important that the South be provoked into firing the first shot
so that Lincoln could claim the Confederacy started the war. Additional
proof that Lincoln wanted war is the fact that Lincoln refused to meet with
a Confederate peace delegation. They remained in Washington for 30 days and
returned to Richmond only after it became apparent that Lincoln wanted war
and refused to meet and discuss a peace agreement. After setting up the Fort
Sumter incident for the purpose of starting a war, Lincoln called for 75,000
troops to put down what he called a rebellion. He intended to march Union
troops across Virginia and North Carolina to attack South Carolina. Virginia
and North Carolina were not going to allow such an unconstitutional and
criminal act of aggression against a sovereign sister Southern State.
Lincoln's act of aggression caused the secession of the upper Southern
States.

On April 17th 1861, Governor Letcher of Virginia sent this message to
Washington DC: " I have only to say that the militia of Virginia will not be
furnished to the powers of Washington for any such use or purpose as they
have in view. Your object is to subjugate the Southern states and the
requisition made upon me for such a object-an object in my judgement not
within the purview of the constitution or the act of 1795, will not be
complied with. You have chosen to inaugurate civil war; having done so we
will meet you in a spirit as determined as the administration has exhibited
toward the South."

The WAR BETWEEN THE STATES 1861-1865 occurred due to many complex causes
and factors as enumerated above. Those who make claims that "the war was
over slavery" or that if slavery had been abolished in 1776 when the
Declaration of Independence was signed or in 1789 when The Constitution of
the United States of America was signed, that war would not have occurred
between North and South are being very simplistic in their views and
opinions.

The following conversation between English ship Captain Hillyar and Capt. Raphael Semmes-Confederate Ship CSS Sumter (and after 1862 CSS Alabama) occurred during the war on August 5th, 1861. It is a summary from a well-educated Southerner who is stating his reasons for fighting.
Captain Hillyar expressed surprised at Captain Semme's contention that the people of the South were "defending ourselves against robbers with knives at our throats", and asked for further clarification as to how this was so, the exchange below occurred. I especially was impressed with Semmes' assessment of yankee motives - the creation of "Empire"!
Semmes: "Simply that the machinery of the Federal Government, under which we have lived, and which was designed for the common benefit, has been made the means of despoiling the South, to enrich the North", and I explained to him the workings of the iniquitous tariffs, under the operation of which the South had, in effect, been reduced to a dependent colonial condition, almost as abject as that of the Roman provinces, under their proconsuls; the only difference being, that smooth-faced hypocrisy had been added to robbery, inasmuch as we had been plundered under the forms of law"
Captain Hillyar: "All this is new to me", replied the captain. "I thought that your war had arisen out of the slavery question".
Semmes: "That is the common mistake of foreigners. The enemy has taken pains to impress foreign nations with this false view of the case. With the exception of a few honest zealots, the canting hypocritical Yankee cares as little for our slaves as he does for our draught animals. The war which he has been making upon slavery for the last 40 years is only an interlude, or by-play, to help on the main action of the drama, which is Empire; and it is a curious coincidence that it was commenced about the time the North began to rob the South by means of its tariffs. When a burglar designs to enter a dwelling for the purpose of robbery, he provides himself with the necessary implements. The slavery question was one of the implements employed to help on the robbery of the South. It strengthened the Northern party, and enabled them to get their tariffs through Congress; and when at length, the South, driven to the wall, turned, as even the crushed worm will turn, it was cunningly perceived by the Northern men that 'No slavery' would be a popular war-cry, and hence, they used it.
It is true that we are defending our slave property, but we are defending it no more than any other species of our property - it is all endangered, under a general system of robbery. We are in fact, fighting for independence.

The Union victory in 1865 destroyed the right of secession in
America,which had been so cherished by America's founding fathers as the
principle of their revolution. British historian and political philosopher
Lord Acton, one of the most intellectual figures in Victorian England,
understood the deeper meaning of Southern defeat. In a letter to former
Confederate General Robert E. Lee dated November 4,1866, Lord Acton wrote "
I saw in States Rights the only available check upon the absolutism of the
sovereign will, and secession filled me with hope, not as the destruction
but as the redemption of Democracy. I deemed you were fighting the battles
of our liberty, our progress, and our civilization and I mourn for that
which was lost at Richmond more deeply than I rejoice over that which was
saved at Waterloo (defeat of Napoleon). As Illinois Governor Richard Yates
stated in a message to his state assembly on January 2,1865, the war had "
tended, more than any other event in the history of the country, to militate
against the Jeffersonian Ideal ( Thomas Jefferson ) that the best government
is that which governs least.

Years after the war former Confederate president Jefferson Davis stated " I
Am saddened to Hear Southerners Apologize For Fighting To Preserve Our
Inheritance". Some years later former U.S. president Theodore Roosevelt
stated " Those Who Will Not Fight For The Graves Of Their Ancestors Are
Beyond Redemption".



James W. King

Commander Camp 141

Lt. Col. Thomas M. Nelson

Sons of Confederate Veterans

PO Box 70577 Albany, Georgia 31708

229-436-0397

jkingantiquearms@bellsouth.net

Since the 1860's the federal government has done a fantastic job 'demonizing' Southerners. Make every Southern white person a racist. Associate the Confederate flag with racism instead of States' rights. It was a smart move for the centralists in Washington D.C. to remove power from the States. As long as the common folk believe the fallacy that the Civil War was about slavery and those nasty 'redneck' racists, the beaureaucrats won't have to fear folks reading what the South really wanted, thus avoiding political power returning to the States and the people. Hitler and Stalin would be proud of them.

As a side note, the KKK has always used the Stars and Stripes as their primary flag. Just look at all the old photos of the KKK march on Washington D.C. Not one Confederate flag can be seen. The Confederate Navy Jack, not the Battle Flag, was initially used by the KKK in the late 1950's. However, the Stars and Stripes have always remained their primary flag.

Individuals, groups, and organizations who denounce the Confederate States of America, the Confederate flag, and the celebration of Confederate Heroes and Memorial Day appear very ignorant, biased, and hypocritical.

The Confederate flag represents Limited Constitutional Federal Government, States Rights, Resistance to Tyranny, and Christian Values and Principles. In claiming that the Confederate flag represents slavery, bigotry, and racism they make no comparison to the U.S. flag (Stars & Stripes) and to the history of the United States of America.
Slavery began in the North in Massachusetts. Soon after the Pilgrims landed (1620) they began enslaving the Pequot Indians. In 1641 Massachusetts was the first colony to legalize slavery by statute. The five states that imported slaves in the colonial era were Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, and New York. The slave trade was still in operation at the beginning of the War Between the States and the slave ship "Nightingale" was captured by Capt. John Julius Guthrie, who soon became a Confederate naval officer, on April 21, 1861. It was registered to the city of Boston, Massachusetts. Thus the slave trade in America was carried on under the U.S. flag and the flags of the Northern colonies and states with U.S. money. The U.S. flag flew over slavery for 90 years as compared to 4 for the Confederate flag. New York City had the second highest slave population in the U.S.

The U.S. flag flew over the genocide of the American Indians. Their land was taken without fair compensation and they died by the thousands from starvation and disease as they were herded onto reservations. It was the U.S. government that broke every treaty ever made with the Indians. The U.S. flag flew over the Trail Of Tears endured by the Cherokee.
The official flag of the KKK is the U.S. flag, not the Confederate flag. Indiana and Ohio in the 1920 era were the largest Klan states and all photographs of that era show them flying the U.S. flag.
The U.S. flag flew over the concentration camp incarceration of loyal Japanese U.S. Citizens during World War II while some of their fathers and sons fought and died for the U.S. as American soldiers.
The U.S. participated in the allied bombing of Dresden,Germany in World War II which was a population center and not involved in the war effort. Thousands of innocent children were burned alive.
Finally the U.S. flag flies over a nation that has murdered an estimated 50 million babies by abortion.

Given these facts, which flag has flown over more human rights violations, the U.S. flag or the Confederate flag? Which flag is more associated with slavery ? Which flag has had more racist acts committed under it ? Clearly the answer is the U.S. flag.
Both the United States of America and the Confederate States of America and their flags, heroes, and memorial days should be respected and honored for positive reasons.

Here come the flaming liberal socialists

Let's see:

Proud New Englander;

The US Lost VietNam and currently Iraq. Yup, Time to haul down Old Glory and put it away!

Oh, thank you for wishing us happiness on the day forced on us by Govt Blackmail, and by hiding his records and files for 50 years, so that some folks can celebrate the life of someone who had a dream of judging people by their character, but who lived the life of adultery, woman beating, sex orgies, communist ties, and cheating to get his doctoral thesis. I would rather read the Bible and learn from a TRUE HERO.

Teacher Karen Hatter, by forcing her students to mail unsolicited letters to a minor child of another school, has committed 40 counts of harrassment, and violated numerous civil and legal statutes. Investigations are currently underway. Charges are pending. Thanks to reporter Gividen for supplying the evidence!

Walpole, Mass;
Did you get your education off the side of a Trix cereal box? Froot Loops? The story not covered in the recent "Flags of our Fathers" by C. Eastwood was that just prior to the flag raising on Mt Suribachi, a Confederate Flag was flown by servicemen under fire along the beach.

The United States Government and US Military recognize by law Veterans of both Union and Confederate forces being one and the same

Ft Hood, Ft Lee, Ft AP Hill, Ft Gordon, Ft Benning, Ft Bragg. Confederate Generals and US Army bases...

SSBN USS Robert E Lee & SSBN USS Stonewall Jackson are US Navy Nuclear Submarines

Stonewall Brigade and Tiger Brigade are US Forces with Confederate Names fighting the war on Terror

The tallest monument in Arlington National Cemetery is that of the Confederate Memorial Statue - complete with a black Confederate Soldier sculpted by a Confederate Jew

Confederate Flags were part of a US Army Rangers ensignia, and have been flown from WW2, viet nam, korea, desert storm and today by our military.

It would seem Confederate Flag wavers are more American than your average WALPOLEAN !

jhunter0032 ;

Let's talk about biracial children and bigotry. Mariah Carey, Halle Berry. Mixed blood kids who had their black dad run off at an early age, and having their poor white mothers raise them alone, and when they make something of themselves (wonder why the Confederate Flag let them slip away?) they stand before the world and claim they are "African American" having never stepped foot in africa a day in their life, spitting on their mothers and her family heritage. How did Tiger Woods escape the flag? Michael Jackson? Oh he's white now, ok, Nicole Ritchey? Kevin Federlines mixed kids? Flags? Racism? Perhaps it is simply you?

The so called 'problem' with the black race IS NOT the Confederate ANYTHING, it is their so called racist black 'leaders' their racist black organizations, clubs, groups and associations.

These so called leaders preach the hate against the Confederacy, but run away from drugs, crimes, illiteracy, homelessness, joblessness, HIV/AIDS, pregnancy.

Simply look no further than Rev Louis Coleman from Louisville, who is leading the effort to remove the symbols from Allen Central High School.

He is running around the Kentucky hills crying about flags, yet his own son is sitting in prison, doing nearly 50 years on 8 felony charges, and he is not quite 35 years old. This is the trap black leaders are setting for every one of you people like Karen Hatter, who will most likely lose her job and her school district $$$$$$, and folks like poor jhunter0032, who has put so much stock in the so called attacks on biracial children.

There are some sad sad people here, and it ain't those who honor Confederate Flags. Being PC liberal socialist communist censorship yankee must really stink.

That proud New Englander gives us a source of amusement. What is to be proud of in New England? Perhaps the way Cotton Mather and the puritancial New Englanders massacred and enslaved the natiev population? Perhaps their narrow world view and their determination to be more and more like the depraved, sexist and greedy Kennedy clan? The New Englander has little to be proud of and yet he insists he is so. I can only assume that he is proud because he is so ignorant of facts and truth. Go ahead New Englander, be proud of the fact that you people have been the source of American misery since the Puritans polluted this soil. The Battlelfag stands for honor and courage. You New England folks just stand for tax increases, keg parties and liberal backwash.

To all Southerners who wave the Confederate Battle Flag proudly, and declare it is not a symbol of racism: I wish you all a very happy Martin Luther King Holiday...and I dare you to march around your home town on MLK Day with your Rebel flags waving proudly! (Don't forget your signs saying: "We Aren't Racists".

In 1865 the Confederacy suffered a miserable loss...get over it, move on, and be proud to be Americans.

In my 56 years on God's beautiful earth, I have never seen so many misinformed, history challenged,bigoted, narrow minded yankee rantings, as I have witnessed here. I am a Kaw/Osage American Indian mixblood...whose ancestors fought for the Confederacy, not to own slaves, not for states rights, but merely for the more fair treatment and conditions that were offered by the CSA.
I have been struck with the racist hate stick more times than I can count, and never once did it occur by a Southerner of any color. It was always some north of the Mason Dixon line my way or the highway unmannered white bigot, or some group of wannabee gangstas who are only brave when they have you outnumbered 5 to 1.
The Confederate flag is a historical symbol, the fact that it has been stolen by hate groups for their own use, and as history is always written by the victor, it is a shame so few are really aware of what the War of Northern Arrogance, the true feelings of Lincoln in regards to blacks and especially the American Indian. Mr. Lincoln's planned genocide of the American Indian are documented facts in Congressional Records; as are his plans for shipping the blacks to a colony of their own. It was Mr. Lincolns armies who turned Napoleon cannons upon the skin covered lodges of my people, and in doing so Union troops mass murdered, raped, pillaged and plundered .It is Old Glory that is the principal symbol of the KKK along with the Bible, do ya want to ban the American Flag and the Bible as well?
Political Correctness is killing this country day by day, and so is one sided tolerance. To the windbag yankees that have posted their hatefilled comments here I say get over it.......the North was wrong.
T Warren

The Confederate Battle Flag is a beautiful symbol of the passionate desire and need to be free from a meddling, usurping, better than you
Federal Beast (Yankee Beast). Are we Americans? Hell yes we are !! Our Battle Flag is the only
American flag that you can't turn upside down!!!

Someone, mentioned treason, where in the Constitution does or did it forbid the several states from leaving the union? Several of the
states reserved their right to do just that, when
they ratified the Constitution. The 13 Colonies were certainly guilty of treason against the Crown
in 1776. Read your history, study the onstitution
and the lies of Abraham Lincoln, very similar as
to what we face today.

http://home.comcast.net/~historyproject

The southern cross is not a symbol of hate . Those who say as much are ignorant of the facts. If you are to accuse confederates of being racist then you are offending the memory of the THOUSANDS of blacks that fought for the cause, the THOUSANDS of latinos that fought for the cause , the THOUSANDS of cherokee that fought for the cause. what is the cause you ask? wasn't it salvery? no, to those who understand the history of the south , the cause was and is the desire of the southern people to be left alone. the desire for our people to be able to maintain our culture as we see fit. There is a growing sentiment in America today for people of all heritages to embrace thier peoples history and culture. the SAME people who cry for these people to embrace thier heritage are the same people who try to eradicate our heritage from the world .is that equality? as far as the person who said to embrace our heritage is to act like the holocaust never happened, do not forget that your own "Old Glory" is dripping with the blood af all the Cherokee who died in the name of american imperial expansion on the trail of tears death march.dont forget that it was the american flag that flew on all those slave ships. It was the AMERICAN constitution that protected slavery for 86 years before we seceded and the confederate constitution that began the process of emancipation (article I section 1:9) Washington, Jefferson, Grant owned slaves while Lee and jackson did not; and as far as the "Great Emancipator" myth goes the end of slavery came about AFTER lincolns death with the ratification of the 13th ammendment U.S. Grant owned his slaves even after appomattox. If you want to remove symbols of hate you better start with the most obvious.Why does everyone want to embrace thier heritage by ripping mine out of the history books? If you want to try to disgrace my culture , heros and institutions you'd better start coming up with some REAL reasons why being a Confederate-American is so bad ( or better yet stop trying to build yourselves up at the expense of my people. Thank you , Dio vindici and god bless.