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Retiree claims pensioners lack representation

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A former state worker says he’s upset that retirees lack representation on the Blue Ribbon Commission to study the state retirement, but Rep. Derrick Graham disputed that contention.
Tom Utterback says the 24-member commission includes lawmakers, administration officials, representatives of teachers and state employees, but not retirees.
"I think it’s an outrage," said Utterback who retired from state government in 1, after working in the Finance and Administration Cabinet since 5
Graham, D-Frankfort, however, disagrees. He said he thinks state retirees have a voice. In addition to several current retirees, the commission includes representatives from the Kentucky Teachers’ Retirement System and the Kentucky Retirement System, which includes state employees, county employees and state police.
The Blue Ribbon Commission appointed by Gov. Ernie Fletcher held its first meeting Monday and will report to Fletcher by Dec. 1. The commission is charged with developing recommendations to fulfill retirement obligations to current retirees and employees.
The commission does include several members who are retired from state government, including Lee Jackson, president of the Kentucky Association of State Employees. However, Utterback said nobody on the commission represents retirees as a whole.
But Graham said, "They are sensitive to the needs of retirees. Retirees do have a voice."
Fletcher addressed the commission Monday, saying there’ll be no changes to the retirement benefits for current employees and retirees.
"Important promises were made and it is incumbent upon us to keep them," he said.
However, Fletcher has asked the commission to examine what the appropriate level of benefits should be for future state employees.
"The committee’s charge is to focus on how we can meet those commitments and responsibly plan for the future," he said.
Retired state employee Brenda Rice said future employees should be last on the priority list when it comes to retirement reform. Rice also retired in 1 after working as a nursing home ombudsman since 9.
"They are phantom employees," she said.
Changing the benefit structure of future state employees could have a significant impact on the local economy, she said. Rice provides assistance to family members, donates to local charities and shops at Frankfort stores.
"It has a ripple effect that some businesses haven’t acknowledged yet," she said.
Bill Hanes, executive director of the Kentucky Retirement Systems, said approximately 95 percent of state retirees stay in Kentucky.
"It has a multiplying effect," he said.
According to the retirement systems, more than $1.1 billion in benefits are paid to 75,000 retirees, of whom 71,000 live in Kentucky.
Graham agreed and said changes to future benefits would have a serious impact on the standard of living in Franklin County because a significant portion of the population is retired from state government.
Approximately 5,500 retirees live in Franklin County and account for about 11.5 percent of the population.
According to the retirement systems, more than $134.6 million in retirement benefits are paid to residents of Franklin County each year. That’s second only to Jefferson County, where $.7 million in benefits is paid to 11,500 retirees each year.
In addition, the Blue Ribbon Commission conducted organizational business on Monday. Chairman John Farris, secretary of the Finance and Administration Cabinet, said the committee will form three working groups to address health insurance, examine benefits for future state employees and propose a way to fulfill current retirement obligations.
The next meeting is scheduled for 1 p.m. May 14 in a meeting room of the Capitol Annex. Representatives of the teachers’ and state employees’ retirement funds will give presentations then, and the working groups will also meet on an interim basis.




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Posted by terrell1963 January 10, 2008
Can anyone cite where a pension plan gets any kind of "cost of living" increase except for the bloated government?

Answer: there is none. There is no retirement plan that automatically increases recipients benefits every year.

Want an increase? Get off your duffs and go to work.

There are still Americans who believe it is the individuals responsibility to stand on his/her own feet and not rely on the nanny state government.

And before the whining starts, I AM a current state employee.

Posted by van August 5, 2007
This article has been well read with 5500+ retired in Franklin County maybe they will get of their duff and get organized now is the time to let the candidates know we are concerned about the future of our retirement. Read Sunday August5,2007 paper seems Tom Utterback (see article on Fancy Farm)may be the only person worried about our retirement.

Posted by elmbudmillie May 7, 2007
Okey Retired State Workers. We do have more rights than any of the other people listed on the BLUE Ribbon commission. We don't want to be stuck with a retirement bill that doesn't respond to our needs. After all we have no way to make extra money to make up for lost incremental raises or higher insurance rates. Maybe its time to get the 5500plus retirees together and put some pressure on Graham and a few others. Thanks for noticing the omissions Tom. Edd

Posted by Coxie April 18, 2007
I missed the article yesterday thankfully The State-journal keeps the articles on there web site for more than one day. How can Rep. Derrick Graham be so miss guided, he should represents the retirees of Franklin County period. Why does he feel he must defend the makeup of the Blue Ribbon Commission?
If he wants the 5500 plus retirees to vote for him next time he runs he needs to support the Kentucky State Retirees and not attack Mr. Utterback who is just stating the facts as he see them.

Posted by Jakie April 17, 2007
rlrhtr
What is your point or do you have one. The SJ as you put did not seem to find anyone to agree with Rep. Graham. The Retirees have no voice on the panel period!

Posted by rlrhtr April 17, 2007
I find it curious why the SJ didn't mention the fact that Tom Utterback and Brenda Rice are married. Did they have that much trouble finding others to agree with Mr. Utterback?

Posted by Bren April 17, 2007
Why is Rep. Derrick Graham not supporting state retirees. Approximately 5,500 retirees live in Franklin County and elected him to represent
them not to defend the make up of the Blue Ribbon Commission. The retirees need a voice or two no the commission and Ms. Rice and Mr. Utterback seem to fit the bill. Rep. Graham why don't you ask to have them added to the commission 26 members are as workable as 24 members. Show your support for state government retirees.

Posted by Jakie April 17, 2007
I agree with Brenda Rice and Tom Utterback that the retired state employees do not have a voice on the 24 member Blue Ribbon Retirement Commission. I attended the meeting where Mr. Lee Jackson, stated he was representing KASE.
Although he is a retired person, he is not there representing all state retirees. The main priority for this commission is to preserve and protect benefits of those who are retired. The second priority would be those currently working and the last priority would be future hires. The real truth is young people graduating from college are lucky to find jobs and few have options because they have no work experience.



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