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Rick Paul, owner of Rick’s White Light Diner, puts a Derby Pie made by Kern’s Kitchen Inc. back into its box while his pie, a Kentucky bourbon pie, sits on the counter. Kern’s Kitchen Inc. has filed a motion in federal court against Paul for a trademark violation on its Derby Pie.

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A Derby Pie made by Kern’s Kitchen Inc. sits by a Kentucky bourbon pie made at Rick’s White Light Diner.

Kern's Kitchen Inc. " owner of the federally and state registered Derby-Pie trademark " claims Frankfort's Rick Paul of Rick's White Light Diner has again infringed on its trademark.

Louisville attorney Donald L. Cox, representing Kern's, has filed a motion in federal court seeking an order requiring Paul to show cause why he should not be held in contempt of court.

In August 1997, Kern's Kitchen, of Louisville, sued Paul and his diner for trademark infringement. Then in November 1997, a federal court judgment permanently enjoined Paul from infringing on the Derby-Pie trademark.

In a motion filed last week in Frankfort, Kern's claims Paul recently violated the permanent injunction.

Kern's seeks up to $1 million in damages, punitive damages, and costs and attorney fees " if Paul can't show why he shouldn't be held in contempt.
Paul's lawyer, Robert Reeves of Lexington, said Wednesday he doesn't think

Kern's Kitchen's claims are "justified under the facts. But that remains for the court to determine and we're in the process of preparing a response."

Reeves said he received a copy of the motion last Friday, "and I think I have 10 or 15 days to respond."

A court date has not been set.

According to Kern's Kitchen's motion:
>Private investigator John Landreth ate lunch at the White Light Diner on Jan. 15.
>A hand-lettered sign hung at the restaurant's entrance stating, "Have a Piece of Derby Pie."
>After lunch, Landreth's female assistant ordered a slice of "Derby Pie," referring to the sign. The waitress brought her a slice and was asked about an identical looking pie displayed under plastic wrap. The waitress said that was a whole "Derby Pie," which Landreth purchased for $18.
>When asked why the pie was not on the menu, the investigators were told it was the same as the "Bluegrass Bourbon Pie" listed on the menu.
>Then Paul spoke, saying the "Bluegrass Bourbon Pie" was not listed as "Derby Pie" because "'that damn pie had caused him to be sued for $350,000.'"
>After a discussion about the lawsuit, Paul said although he had stood up to Kern's Kitchen, he had not won the suit, which was the "reason for the menu listing "Derby Pie' under a different name." Basically, Paul was selling a similar pie to the Derby-Pie chocolate nut pie, calling it "Bluegrass Bourbon Pie," but still advertising it as a Derby-Pie brand product.
>Landreth said when his assistant then made reference to the Derby Pie sign outside, "Mr. Paul then revealed his master planconcerning how he intended to "make fools of the Kern's people, their lawyers and the courts.'"
>Then Paul produced from his freezer a real Derby-Pie brand frozen product in its original box. Paul said "when he was taken to task by "them' he intended to produce the "real Derby Pie' and offer to sell them a piece, thereby fulfilling their request for "Derby Pie,' and making fools of them since they could do nothing about his actions."
>The assistant then asked whether the Derby-Pie product was for sale. Paul "laughingly replied "sure, but it will cost you $80.'" He explained he needed to keep it in stock for his own protection in case "'they show up' about the "Derby Pie.'"

In his diner by the Singing Bridge Wednesday afternoon, Paul said there are inaccuracies in the private investigator's statements, "and that's what we're going to get clear on."

"I was advertising Derby Pie on the front of the building and we were selling the real Derby Pie in the restaurant," Paul said. "In fact, I thought they might want to thank me for that.

"We do not call our pie Derby Pie, and we've never called our pie Bluegrass Bourbon Pie. Our pie is called Kentucky bourbon pie."

During the interview Wednesday, Paul picked up a copy of a book by Gary West, Eating Your Way Across Kentucky " 101 Must Places to Eat, published last year. Paul flipped to the chapter on Rick's White Light Diner.

In the book West says, "Rick has a couple of desserts that are about as good as it gets. His key lime pie is the real deal and his Kentucky bourbon pie is one of those where you'll probably want to buy a whole one to take home with you."

Reeves, the attorney, said Kern's Derby-Pie and Paul's Kentucky bourbon pie "have some similarities, but there are several differences. They both appear and taste differently."

Paul said, "There are differences, for sure. It's hard to mix them up. People are so in love with my pies, although we have Derby-Pie available here as well, sales do not go well.

"We went to court (in 1997). We were wrong. We paid $300 to serve their pie 11 years ago. I think they probably would be better served going after some of these people on the Internet that are advertising Derby Pie as their own recipe, every day."

Paul then Googled Derby Pie on his computer in the diner and showed several customers "190,000 entries."

Cox said Wednesday citizens often notify Kern's Kitchen about someone misusing the Derby-Pie trademark.

"In this case, we got an e-mail from somebody who indicated what was going on," Cox said, and that led to the January investigation of Paul.

"This is not a game as Mr. Paul seems to be treating it," Cox said. "Nobody would think it is OK to steal your car. Why could they think then that it's OK to steal your name?"

Over the years, Cox said Kern's has probably filed 25 lawsuits, "and we have prevailed on every single one. We tend to get larger settlements when it's a second offense."

At first, "we put people on notice and ask them to sign a letter agreeing not to infringe," Cox said. "When they sign the letter, we keep a record. The next time, we sue them."

Kern's biggest cash award in a court case "has probably been $25,000 or $30,000," Cox said.

In one case involving a national magazine, "we received hundreds of thousands of dollars in free advertising in their magazine," Cox said.




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103.
    Posted by Uknown May 6, 2008
AND IT'S SCARY MENU TIME

BREAKFAST AT RICK'S

New Orleans Beignets $2.99
THE BEST EGGS BENEDICT $10.99
Half order $6.25
RIBEYE STEAK AND EGGS WITH GRILLED POTATOES $11.95
CAJUN OMELET $9.99
INCLUDES WHOLE WHEAT TOAST AND BUTTER
CONTROL FREAK OMELET $9.99
INCLUDES WHOLE WHEAT TOAST AND BUTTER
WHITE CHEDDAR CHEESE OMELET $7.99
INCLUDES WHOLE WHEAT TOAST AND BUTTER
ADD TO YOUR OMELET, MUSHROOMS, RED BELL PEPPER OR CAJUN MIX 1.25
FRENCH TOAST $6.95
UNCLE RICK'S MAGIC PANCAKES $6.99
** Add chocolate chips, bananas or strawberries $1.50
CAJUN CRAWFISH PIE WITH A SIDE DISH $8.95
RICK'S BREAKFAST SPECIAL $7.95
2 EGGS, POTATOES AND TOAST WITH REAL BUTTER
BREAKFAST SPECIAL MONDAY-FRIDAY (8-11AM)-- EGGS, POTATOES, MEAT AND TOAST $5.95
WE USE FARM FRESH EGGS
SIDE DISHES $2.25
GRILLED POTATOES GARLIC - WHITE CHEDDAR GRITS - CAJUN FRIED RICE
BACON, HAM, SAUSAGE $2.25
TOAST $1.99
WHOLE WHEAT - RYE - ENGLISH MUFFIN " WHITE
DRINKS $1.99
COFFEE AND HOT TEA (FREE REFILLS WITH FOOD PURCHASE)
MILK, CLIMAX BOTTLED WATER
ORANGE JUICE
I USE ONLY REAL BUTTER, OLIVE OIL, PEANUT OIL AND MAPLE SYRUP.
ENJOY YOUR BREAKFAST.
" CHEF RICK PAUL

102.
    Posted by mrserious May 6, 2008
From 'billm' -

"He's no Shelby."

Neither are you, sport. So what?

101.
    Posted by mrserious May 6, 2008
From the cyberspace weenie known as 'train'

"ROFL, he still thinks he can hide behind all his usernames. What a way to dig your own grave, Chuckster!"

You clones can keep on imagining whatever conspiracy theories you want in your fevered little brains, but 'stubbornasamule' ain't my user name, dim bulb. I know that won't convince you, but just wanted to go on record for the people who read things here who aren't as delusional and paranoid as you are.
It's a shame that you have nothing else to do with your life.

100.
    Posted by billm May 6, 2008
He's no Shelby.

99.
    Posted by train May 6, 2008
ROFL, he still thinks he can hide behind all his usernames. What a way to dig your own grave, Chuckster!

98.
    Posted by mrserious May 6, 2008
"Sorry, Chucky, wrong again. I never sent you an email. Besides, that comment was aimed at Tanya, not you. Sorry to burst your bubble there."

I never said anything about you sending me an email. Someone else posted that. There ARE other people who think you're a twit.

"It's nice how you see a mirror immage of yourself in everybody who dares to criticize you. The sociopath pathology can apply to you, too. That's the behavior you have displayed here."

So now you presume to diagnose over the internet for someone you don't know. Name the specific behavior, then. Darn. You can't, you can only make vague allusions.

"As to my boss, my boss knows what I'm doing and had a really good laugh. You are making quite a joke of yourself. You are obsessed with your cause to the point of paranoia. Or maybe you are just plugging all this fear-mongering everywhere you post in order to recruit students for your class?"

So your boss is as unsettled and filled with venom as you are. Too bad.
I note that it's YOU who keeps brining up something to which I have never referred in any of these exchanges. This is so typical of you. You hallucinate these little conversations in your head, then write emails about things that never happened. You really should get help for that.

"Get out! Smell the roses! You might get a new perspective on life. Not everybody is out to get you. We really don't care about you and your gun obsession. But we had a good laugh making fun of you. 'nough said!"

You care so little that you keep bringing it up and keep coming back here to post about it every day. Your words say one thing but your actions show that you ARE obsessed and can't give it up. You can't give up your spleen and hatred so you keep coming back. Very, very sad.

97.
    Posted by corrections May 5, 2008
Sorry, Chucky, wrong again. I never sent you an email. Besides, that comment was aimed at Tanya, not you. Sorry to burst your bubble there.

It's nice how you see a mirror immage of yourself in everybody who dares to criticize you. The sociopath pathology can apply to you, too. That's the behavior you have displayed here.

As to my boss, my boss knows what I'm doing and had a really good laugh. You are making quite a joke of yourself. You are obsessed with your cause to the point of paranoia. Or maybe you are just plugging all this fear-mongering everywhere you post in order to recruit students for your class?

Get out! Smell the roses! You might get a new perspective on life. Not everybody is out to get you. We really don't care about you and your gun obsession. But we had a good laugh making fun of you. 'nough said!

96.
    Posted by mrserious May 5, 2008
"The Chuckster seems to have a major issue with Rick. I don't like Rick either, but I have to admit he found a good way to get under Chuck's skin. He got him all upset over posting his menus everywhere the Chuckster talks about CCW. He doesn't post anything against Chuck just the menu. And the Chuckster runs crying to the authorities. Just like he wants to report us for reading and commenting here during work time. Good luck with that Chuckster! Oh what a pitiful life he must have..."

Why waste time trying to figure out who you are? Curiosity only goes so far. We know WHAT you are, which is a pitiful blowhard.
You haven't even written about the central issue of this article, which is Rick Paul's pathology and inability to abide by his own agreement. Read the bit about sociopathy from Wikipedia, might find something of yourself in there.
Have you told your boss how much of your work time you waste on this stuff, and how you misbehave? Of course you haven't. You only talk tough. You got no guts at all. Sneak online, spread around some bile, sneak off, pretend to be working so they don't fire you.
At least you found someone to help you with your spelling and vocabulary. Now if you get into therapy for your hatred you'll be all set. You really need to work on that vindictiveness before it eats you up.

95.
    Posted by stubbornasamule May 5, 2008
corrections:I can't believe you still haven't figured out who I am.

I'd say I do. There's only a few people that I know that delight in using various forms of "chuck". I believe I still have the email from awhile ago that gave you away just now.

corrections=overinflated ego

yep, you've always had one. I'm just thankful I don't have to put up with it except here.

94.
    Posted by corrections May 5, 2008
Hiding in plain sight that is. I can't believe you still haven't figured out who I am.

Anyhow, Chuck was referring to his own overinflated ego. He can't let go either. He is worse than Tanya, much worse, LOL. She actually has tamed down lately.

The Chuckster seems to have a major issue with Rick. I don't like Rick either, but I have to admit he found a good way to get under Chuck's skin. He got him all upset over posting his menus everywhere the Chuckster talks about CCW. He doesn't post anything against Chuck just the menu. And the Chuckster runs crying to the authorities. Just like he wants to report us for reading and commenting here during work time. Good luck with that Chuckster! Oh what a pitiful life he must have...

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