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A tight eye on the pumpsApril 28, 2008
Most people have seen the sign posted on gas pumps that reads "No Pay! No License!"
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Posted by trying May 2, 2008
So it's phrased wrong. So they did buy 'full rights' to it. Who cares? It's still the same. There is no conspiracy theory. It's the truth. It's business. And evidently very good business for big oil.
Posted by z4life May 2, 2008
"doesitreallymattereddie? - yes, there was a patent for a water car. Guess who paid good money for it and all the rights to anything related to it? And then went ahead and burried it as quickly as possible? Right, big oil. The same people who for so many years were successful in lobbying lawmakers not to pass legislation that might have provided funding for research into alternative fuel and energy sources. Now we all pay the price for it."
You don't buy the rights to a patent. That's pure BS. You buy the right to use what's in the patent, which more than one person can do. The patent was approved in 1992. It should expire next year or sometime soon after that, then it's free for anybody to use. These conspiracy theories are getting out of hand. Ethanol is a horrible alternative. It cost about the same as gas at the gas station, only due to the fact that just over 50 cents of each gallon of ethanol is subsidized by the government. It also gets worse gas mileage. There is no upside to ethanol.
Posted by doesitreallymattereddie? May 2, 2008
yeah, imagine the ramifications - filling up my car from my sink and corn i've shucked from my garden.
the limit is on debit cards. Banks set the limit in order to limit their potential loss and overdrafts. if you are able to run a debit card as a credit, it is unlimited.
Posted by Tamed-Shrew May 1, 2008
"Shrew, I have only heard about that as a limit on credit card gas purchases if you pay at the pump. That's something some credit card companies require as their own loss prevention in case a stolen card is used."
What I heard must have been a rumor. I am so surprised, since Frankfort never harbors rumors! LOL!!!
Posted by trying May 1, 2008
doesitreallymattereddie? - yes, there was a patent for a water car. Guess who paid good money for it and all the rights to anything related to it? And then went ahead and burried it as quickly as possible? Right, big oil. The same people who for so many years were successful in lobbying lawmakers not to pass legislation that might have provided funding for research into alternative fuel and energy sources. Now we all pay the price for it.
Posted by trying May 1, 2008
"BTW -- Have you noticed that you can only get $50 of gas at one time at some stations? Maybe that has to do with preventing large loss from possible "drive-off's." "
Shrew, I have only heard about that as a limit on credit card gas purchases if you pay at the pump. That's something some credit card companies require as their own loss prevention in case a stolen card is used. If you use the u-scan in the grocery store, they often require a signature or special clerk authorization, if you go over $50 (some $100). They are supposed to check your ID. You are right about the individual gas station owners. They are losing out, too. For them, the gas is a next to nothing to a loss business. They make their true money inside the store. They hate the pay-at-the pump option, because those people don't come inside. Otherwise, they might have bought something in addition to the gas. Now even those who come inside think twice before making extra purchases. It's really big oil, who is making the big money, the individual gas station owner is losing out.
Posted by ema May 1, 2008
I heard a woman say yesterday that she sold her big SUV. She said when she bought it gas wasn't as expensive as it is now. Duh!! I told her that was part of the problem. The more we use............... As for the ethanol, its production isn't free. I know we're just all venting here and we're all in this together.
Posted by terrell1963 May 1, 2008
The federal and state bureaucracy's have heavily taxed and regulated the gasoline industry to the point we are now feeling the costs.
Gas companies are a for profit business like any other. 1. They have to pay their refineries to produce multiple varieties of gasoline to fit the regulations each state has put on them. If the gub'ment would back off, maybe the price for 1 type of unleaded would go down. 2. Whenever the morons in Washington tax their "profits", it is passed on to the consumer the same way any other retail business passes on increased costs. If the gub'ment would back off, maybe the price for gas would go down. We the consumer are caught between business and the bloated federal/state bureaucracy.
Posted by doesitreallymattereddie? May 1, 2008
i'd heard a story while in college that they'd had a completely water-powered car developed back in the 80s, but that the only problem (via my professor at the time) was that the battery was too large and heavy, thus making the car ineffective & inefficient.
we should all go back to horse / mule drawn carriages lol
Posted by sickofreadingcrapcomments May 1, 2008
Don't know a whole lot about this but I saw a story on CNN saying that ethanol was 8 or 9 parts oil product based to 1 part corn/other. Can't remember the exact phrasing. At the time,(when I did remember the phrasing) I did verify it with a source who would know. I was apalled that it ethanol had gotten the attention it had all this time if it is still going to leave us that oil dependent. It is beginning to come to light that it isn't at all good for the environment as was thought. Bad enough that we shouldn't even bother with it. It took a long time for politicians to get on the wagon about this issue and now that they have been convinced it is going to be hard to get them off the idea of ethanol as the solution.
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