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Photo By State Journal/Kelly Mackey
A gas pump at the Lawrenceburg Road Kroger displays a warning about drive-offs.

Most people have seen the sign posted on gas pumps that reads "No Pay! No License!"
It's Sponsored by the Kentucky Petroleum Marketers Association, and aims to discourage drivers from stealing gasoline, according to Lt. Phil Crumpton of the Kentucky State Police.
The long-term impact of the sign, which has been around for several years, has yet to unfold " drivers are still leaving service stations without paying for the gas they pump.
But a check of local police records this year compared to a similar period a year ago reveals the thefts are down " slightly.
From January to April 2007, the Frankfort area reported 30 drive-offs " drivers leaving without paying, according to police statistics. During the same period in 2008 there were 28 reported gas thefts.
Frankfort Police Major Fred Deaton said gas theft is known as a Class-A misdemeanor because it's of $300 or less. Penalties can include a $500 fine and up to 12 months in jail, he said.
Nevertheless, with gas prices at the highest of highs, gas stations are particularly watchful of theft. The USA National Gas Temperature Map has Franklin County gas ranging from $3.53 a gallon to $3.65 a gallon, currently.
Managers and employees say they're aware some thieves will inevitably get away, but they are taking steps to discourage customers from pumping without paying.
"If someone is not paying with a credit card at the pump, we try to identify them by car and color," Louisville Road Speedway co-manager in training Belinda Perkins said. "We remind them to pay inside when they're finished and let them know we can see them."
Police shop at the station frequently, but Perkins says their presence doesn't always matter.
"People have driven off with gas with officers in the store," she said. "Some people just think they can get away with it."
But Perkins also said it's not difficult to track vehicles if motorists drive off without paying for gas.
Deaton agreed. He said once a police report is filed by the gas station, officers respond to vehicle descriptions and license plate numbers in a timely fashion.
Crumpton added that once a person is apprehended, it's up to the Administrative Office of the Courts and the judge to decide the punishment. According to Kentucky statutes, a person can lose his or her license for stealing gas.
Deaton, however, said it just depends on the prosecution.
Crumpton agreed, saying police respond to drive-off reports, but other than that, it's out of their hands.
And unfortunately, some thieves still get away. Perkins conceded that people are watching and planning their crimes.
Other gas stations echoed her dismay.
"They try to catch us when we are really busy," Devil's Hallow BP manager Barbara Thompson said. "They take advantage of it so we just have to watch the pumps closely. I make sure that someone is watching at all times."
And with gas prices continuing to rise, some gas station employees predict that it will only get worse.
"There seems to be a lot of change being used to buy a gallon or two of gas to get from point A to point B," Wilkinson Boulevard Shell employee Richard Kincaid said. "It has a strong impact on people economically. There is a great possibility that there will be more thefts because gas is so expensive."
Perkins pointed to the fact that on some days the price of gas can rise more than 22 cents. But she said there is nothing gas station employees can do about it.
"It can be drastic," Perkins said. "But we don't control it."
And with the cost of gas, station managers say they're making sure employees are aware of the possibility of theft.
"I tell all of my employees to keep a very close watch on the pumps," Thompson said. "It's affecting customers, employees, everybody."




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Posted by trying May 2, 2008
So it's phrased wrong. So they did buy 'full rights' to it. Who cares? It's still the same. There is no conspiracy theory. It's the truth. It's business. And evidently very good business for big oil.

Posted by z4life May 2, 2008
"doesitreallymattereddie? - yes, there was a patent for a water car. Guess who paid good money for it and all the rights to anything related to it? And then went ahead and burried it as quickly as possible? Right, big oil. The same people who for so many years were successful in lobbying lawmakers not to pass legislation that might have provided funding for research into alternative fuel and energy sources. Now we all pay the price for it."

You don't buy the rights to a patent. That's pure BS. You buy the right to use what's in the patent, which more than one person can do. The patent was approved in 1992. It should expire next year or sometime soon after that, then it's free for anybody to use. These conspiracy theories are getting out of hand.

Ethanol is a horrible alternative. It cost about the same as gas at the gas station, only due to the fact that just over 50 cents of each gallon of ethanol is subsidized by the government. It also gets worse gas mileage. There is no upside to ethanol.

Posted by doesitreallymattereddie? May 2, 2008
yeah, imagine the ramifications - filling up my car from my sink and corn i've shucked from my garden.

the limit is on debit cards. Banks set the limit in order to limit their potential loss and overdrafts. if you are able to run a debit card as a credit, it is unlimited.

Posted by Tamed-Shrew May 1, 2008
"Shrew, I have only heard about that as a limit on credit card gas purchases if you pay at the pump. That's something some credit card companies require as their own loss prevention in case a stolen card is used."

What I heard must have been a rumor. I am so surprised, since Frankfort never harbors rumors! LOL!!!

Posted by trying May 1, 2008
doesitreallymattereddie? - yes, there was a patent for a water car. Guess who paid good money for it and all the rights to anything related to it? And then went ahead and burried it as quickly as possible? Right, big oil. The same people who for so many years were successful in lobbying lawmakers not to pass legislation that might have provided funding for research into alternative fuel and energy sources. Now we all pay the price for it.

Posted by trying May 1, 2008
"BTW -- Have you noticed that you can only get $50 of gas at one time at some stations? Maybe that has to do with preventing large loss from possible "drive-off's." "

Shrew, I have only heard about that as a limit on credit card gas purchases if you pay at the pump. That's something some credit card companies require as their own loss prevention in case a stolen card is used. If you use the u-scan in the grocery store, they often require a signature or special clerk authorization, if you go over $50 (some $100). They are supposed to check your ID.

You are right about the individual gas station owners. They are losing out, too. For them, the gas is a next to nothing to a loss business. They make their true money inside the store. They hate the pay-at-the pump option, because those people don't come inside. Otherwise, they might have bought something in addition to the gas. Now even those who come inside think twice before making extra purchases.

It's really big oil, who is making the big money, the individual gas station owner is losing out.

Posted by ema May 1, 2008
I heard a woman say yesterday that she sold her big SUV. She said when she bought it gas wasn't as expensive as it is now. Duh!! I told her that was part of the problem. The more we use............... As for the ethanol, its production isn't free. I know we're just all venting here and we're all in this together.

Posted by terrell1963 May 1, 2008
The federal and state bureaucracy's have heavily taxed and regulated the gasoline industry to the point we are now feeling the costs.

Gas companies are a for profit business like any other.

1. They have to pay their refineries to produce multiple varieties of gasoline to fit the regulations each state has put on them. If the gub'ment would back off, maybe the price for 1 type of unleaded would go down.

2. Whenever the morons in Washington tax their "profits", it is passed on to the consumer the same way any other retail business passes on increased costs. If the gub'ment would back off, maybe the price for gas would go down.

We the consumer are caught between business and the bloated federal/state bureaucracy.

Posted by doesitreallymattereddie? May 1, 2008
i'd heard a story while in college that they'd had a completely water-powered car developed back in the 80s, but that the only problem (via my professor at the time) was that the battery was too large and heavy, thus making the car ineffective & inefficient.

we should all go back to horse / mule drawn carriages lol

Posted by sickofreadingcrapcomments May 1, 2008
Don't know a whole lot about this but I saw a story on CNN saying that ethanol was 8 or 9 parts oil product based to 1 part corn/other. Can't remember the exact phrasing. At the time,(when I did remember the phrasing) I did verify it with a source who would know. I was apalled that it ethanol had gotten the attention it had all this time if it is still going to leave us that oil dependent. It is beginning to come to light that it isn't at all good for the environment as was thought. Bad enough that we shouldn't even bother with it. It took a long time for politicians to get on the wagon about this issue and now that they have been convinced it is going to be hard to get them off the idea of ethanol as the solution.

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