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Christopher Beagle Sr., right, pleads innocent to wanton endangerment in Franklin Circuit Court Friday with his temporary attorney Rodney Barnes.

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Mitchell Engler, left, pleads innocent to wanton endangerment in Franklin Circuit Court Friday with his temporary attorney Rodney Barnes.

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Christopher Beagle Jr., left, pleads innocent to wanton endangerment in Franklin Circuit Court Friday with his temporary attorney Rodney Barnes.

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Anthony Engler, right, pleads innocent to wanton endangerment in Franklin Circuit Court Friday with his temporary attorney Scott Getsinger.

The four men arrested after a shootout between their Bald Knob residences have pleaded innocent and the court and attorneys are trying to figure out how they should be represented.

Christopher T. Beagle Sr., 41, and Christopher T. Beagle Jr., 18, Mitchell Engler, 52, and Anthony Engler, 32, appeared in court Friday to answer to multiple wanton endangerment charges from the Sept. 9 arrest.

Attorneys in Franklin Circuit Court said there's a conflict of interest if they're to be represented by the Department of Public Advocacy, though public defenders were on hand for the arraignment.

Mitch Engler, along with his wife, April, have a separate pending indictment in circuit court after a pickup stolen in Berea wound up in their driveway. Public defender Kristin Gonzalez is handling the case.

Attorneys said the cause of the long-standing feud " who started the shooting and why " is not clear. It involves the pairs of fathers and sons allegedly shooting at one another between their residences on St. Johns Road.

Prosecutors said the case got more complicated when all four requested a public defender.

Because of the Englers' pending case, Judge Phillip Shepherd ordered the DPA to find conflict council for the Beagles " a private attorney paid by the state will represent them. It's not immediately known who will handle the case.

Though the DPA is representing Mitchell Engler and his wife for the unrelated charge, Shepherd questioned in court whether he deserved public representation because he was able to post a $10,000 full cash bond.

Shepherd directed Engler, who said in court he is "on disability," to get his own attorney. Shepherd said if Engler or his family could afford the $10,000 bond, he could afford to pay for his own council.

Engler, whose son is still being held at the Franklin County Regional Jail along with the Beagles, was ordered to contact three attorneys before asking for a public defender again.

At the time of the arraignments, Christopher T. Beagle Sr. asked the court to consider reducing his bond or "OR-ing" him " releasing him on his own recognizance.

Beagle promised to the court that he would not cause trouble if released. Beagle said his wife is afraid to be at their residence and only visits it every other day to feed their dogs.

"I don't want her to be there," Beagle said.

Beagle told the court items from his house have been disappearing and he suspected the Englers were to blame.

Beagle's mother, Dorothy Pointer, 65, who came to court in support of her son and grandson, told The State Journal Friday the feud is taking its toll on her family.

"I'm scared to go anywhere," Pointer said. "They're threatening my life."
In tears, Pointer gestured at Mitch and April Engler, sitting on the other side of the courtroom. "I don't see how they can get by with everything they're doing, " Pointer said.

Pointer said trouble between the Englers and Beagles began at a Christmas party in 2007.

"They were drinking," she said.
Larry T. Engler, 36, allegedly stabbed Beagle in the thigh, state police said at the time of the 2007 incident.

State police Det. Kevin Calhoun said at the time Engler was charged with second-degree assault and taken to Franklin County Regional Jail and released later that day.

Calhoun said at the time a fistfight at a trailer at 388 St. Johns Road escalated to the use of weapons, though Beagle's injuries were not life-threatening.

A phone call to a number listed as the Englers' went unanswered Friday.
Shepherd said in court Friday each of the Beagles' and Englers' cases would be set for a trial date.

Attorneys would likely be appointed next week, Shepherd said.
State police said they were called to the area the afternoon of Sept. 9 for reports of gunfire.

Officers arrested Mitch Engler and Christopher Beagle Sr. and confiscated two weapons, police said.

State troopers said they returned around 6:30 the same evening to arrest Anthony Engler and Christopher Beagle Jr. after receiving a report of a second volley of shots.

Police said at the time of the second arrests they confiscated eight additional weapons.

Anthony Engler is formally charged with two counts of wanton endangerment, Mitch Engler four counts and Christopher Beagle Jr. twelve counts.

Christopher T. Beagle Sr. is charged with nine counts of wanton endangerment and two counts of second-degree assault.




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56.
    Posted by Luanne October 11, 2008
mizkrizpy, it sounds like your family is going through a rough spot. You are in my prayers.

Please do not argue about it on here and don't read it if it upsets you. The other family's lawyersor the DA will use this against your loved ones. Everyone looks on the net now days. I know a woman that could not get accepted into the college she wanted jsut because she posted some underware type pictures when she was 18 on her myspace. I saw the pictures and they were no big deal. I hope you understand that I am trying to give you some good advice, even though you did not ask for it. Good luck to you all and I hope justice works the way that is fair to everyone involved.

And the bottom line is freedom of speech. Even if you feel hurt by others posters, they have a right to their opinion.

55.
    Posted by mizkrizpy October 9, 2008
The only way to determine the truth is to go by evidence. Of course the Englers aren't going to admit they shot first, and the Beagles are telling the truth when they said they didnt shoot first. Whoever shot first (englers) should be charged, and the Beagles deserve self-defense. The Englers have no evidence of bullet shots on their trailer, this why i find the situation completley hilarious to why it can't be determined to whose guilty. Its also awkward that when the police arrived the second time, they caught Tony outside with two rifles,(the rifles they supposedly didnt have upon the arrival of police the first time) one in each hand, but Chris Jr. and Billy were inside the trailer which was being shot at...? And there still isn't a conclusion to who was shooting in self defense. I wonder how the Englers attorneys are going to get around the Beagles having all the bulletholes in thier trailer and zero in the Englers. And no, it is a fact a rifle wouldn't crack a window, it would shatter it, I don't see how that story is believable. Lets see what happens.

54.
    Posted by mizkrizpy October 7, 2008
Beagles Vs Englers

Englers lied to police saying there wasn't any firearms when the police first got there, since they were hidden and they couldn't find any. When police arrived afterwards for Tony shooting at the trailer, they found the firearms on Englers property that they "didn't have". Were not charged with felon with firearms. Mitchell bailed out on 10k and still wanted a public defender. Tony Engler 32 gets angered by an 18 year old. Mitchell Engler fires first shot towards Chris Beagle, therefore Chris gets his firearms and doesn't shoot, just gets it to scare them back to their property. Bullet holes in Englers trailer to back up their story = 0. Bullet holes in Beagles trailers to back up their story = tons. There are marks the police took pictures of on both Chris Jr(18) and Billy May(15) where they where shot at while they were holding the door closed which Tony was shooting at. There isn't a feud, the Englers like to hold grudges b/c they are retards. They obviously don't care to be in prison b/c they get bailed out no matter what. The law has been out there several times b/c they start ****, and the Beagles told the cops everytime for them to just stay on their property, never are they invited. So let's see what happens in court, as the last time the judge was confused to why this man mitchell wanted a public defender after he got out on a 10k full cash bond.

53.
    Posted by kydj October 6, 2008
on sell in June 299.00

52.
    Posted by mizkrizpy October 5, 2008
"get jobs an stay with baby daddies instead of every other man" and do tell me who ur talkin bout here! cause i kno u sure aint talkin bout my ass cause im with my babydaddy n i do my **** u dont know me or my family so dont act like u do!


n NO my dads not on any ****** drugs, he doesnt do **** thank you unlike your family! i bet if the jail would have tested the englers for drugs they would have been ******. my dads been on xanaz for 20 sumthin years now for panick attacks so yea hes lookin a lil rough in that pic since he hasnt had 1 xnanx since hes been in there! wat the **** do u expect??????? ****** stupid. hes in jail.. are u posed to look good while ur in jail??? and if your tryin to call someone out in my family go head... state who your talking bout? .. cause i really would like to know? wow is that all you cant talk about is my nanny tits?? wtf? lol and wtf are you really worried about if my dads payin his rent n ****, stay in ur own ****. dont be worried what where doing! and no it wasnt 2 sexual abuse charges stupid.. lol hell naw im weak! its two counts of second-degree assault. like i said get ur facts straight! its at the very end of this article.. just read for urself! and no its the oppisite mitch came outside and started shootin at my dad while he had to hid behind out mini van?? i dont know where your hearin this crap! wow, i didnt kno it was illegal to drink a beer every know n then??? lmao. AND NO I LOVE MY DAD N HE KNOWS IT AND MY BROTHER BUT NO I DONT HAVE 20,000 TO GET THEM OUT! LOL BUT THERE NOT GOING TO HATE ME FOR THAT! I DONT KNOW OF ANY1 THAT JUST HAS 10,000 OR 20,000 JUST SETTIN AROUND! must be getting the wrong way if you can come up with that much money that fast? huh? and like i said before my dad never shot at the englers ****** trailer and never shot there window out! he knows theres people over there and a baby so no he wouldnt do such a thing. why would mitch put his grandchilds life in danger when he came out shooting.. that is the question?????????






HA

51.
    Posted by mizkrizpy October 5, 2008
ok well i see everything you just wrote is b.s again. all ur doing is making up ****... like always. u got a habit of doing so.

why wont you state your name??? kydj?

50.
    Posted by kydj October 4, 2008
The money is not Mitch's we put the money up,knowing we will get our money back after court are you mad cause you're dad is not loved enough to get out save money and free the Beagle's.You talk about you're 1yr old what about Mitch's grandson a sleep and a bullet went through the window he's 1.Did you're dad think about that child's life no....

49.
    Posted by kydj October 4, 2008
Disabled every time he gets mad he grabs a gun and shoots the 15yr old and the son.Mitch is sick of you all shooting his s??? up fight Tony and all of them but do not mess with a man's home twice.I know for a fact Mitch never gets involved.You're dad and brother had guns and shooting at his son to where he could not get away.If that was you're 1yr old son what would you do so know the facts little girl you're daddy is as sick as Tony Fight,Fight that's all they think about until they are sober!!!!!So get drunk more as soon as they get out I'm sure you'll have some beer waiting for him.Hope they have sober neighbors next trip.Are go to AA

48.
    Posted by kydj October 4, 2008
Just read the paper it said Beagle had 2 sexual abuse charges old I guess but the paper said it so I got my story straight maybe the paper is wrong call SJ.

47.
    Posted by kydj October 4, 2008
Nobody wants to not even the lady who rented you the trailer which you trashed,what about rent does you're dad are grandmother have a job because last time I ask neither were paying there bills just asking for the same handout as they claim the Engler's are.

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