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Mike Whitaker, chief deputy of the Franklin County Property Valuation Administrator, said further personnel cuts would hurt his agency's ability to certify the tax roll.

On Thursday, Jonathan Miller, secretary of the Finance and Administration Cabinet, said Gov. Steve Beshear's proposed 4 percent budget cut could mean layoffs within local PVA offices.

The Franklin County office normally has six full-time and two part-time deputies, but one full-time employee left several months ago and the vacancy has not been filled, Whitaker said.

The PVA office is managing as best it can, Whitaker said, but further loses could hurt taxing districts, like schools.

"Things will be delayed if we don't have the personnel to get the tax rolls out and certified to the sheriff," Whitaker said.

"If the sheriff can't bill, they can't turn over money to the schools and other tax districts."

The only money the PVA receives from the state is funds for salaries, Whitaker said, and if that's cut there will be fewer employees to do the work. The PVAs from all 120 counties share money in the same fund, and Whitaker said he doesn't know how cuts would be allocated.

Miller said without additional revenue, such as from Beshear's proposed 70-cent cigarette tax, PVAs would experience even more layoffs. In that case, counties, schools and other tax districts could be forced to borrow money to operate if the tax calendar is not met.

Franklin County Clerk Guy Zeigler said his office would not be greatly inconvenienced by 4 percent cuts at the Department of Revenue which is under the Finance Cabinet. The agency sends out motor vehicle valuation books every month, and Miller said their delivery could be delayed or interrupted.

Zeigler said most of the information his clerks need, including average trade-in and retail value, is stored on a computer system.

The only impact would be when owners request information on the average loan value for a vehicle, Zeigler said. That data is only in the books and would tell buyers how much they can expect to borrow.

"Overall, it's not a critical thing for the clerks," he said.

Budget cuts at the Finance Cabinet would also hurt the maintenance of all state facilities, including the Governor's Mansion, Capitol and other historic properties. Communications Director Valeria Cummings said the cuts would affect aesthetic elements, such as carpets, landscaping and painting.

"Our priorities will still be based on life-safety," she said.

Without additional revenue, Miller said the state would not be able to fund unanticipated catastrophic repairs, such as a leak in the Capitol or an exploding boiler in the Governor's Mansion.

Beshear took his plan to offset the state's budget crisis through cuts in government services and a boost in Kentucky's cigarette tax to the public Thursday night, speaking to a packed high school auditorium.

Beshear, a Democrat, has been touring the state with the proposal he intends to push before the General Assembly when it returns to the Capitol in January. Beshear's "town hall" meeting at Grant County High School marked his last such event of the year.

"People really appreciate these conversations and I find that they learn a lot from these conversations," Beshear said. "I learn a lot from them too, and I have found significant support for some type of additional revenue because people understand this financial situation and how serious it is."

Kentucky is facing a $456.1 million budget shortfall between now and June 30. Beshear has proposed offsetting the budget hole by increasing the state's tax cigarette tax by 70 cents to $1 per pack and cutting most government agencies' budgets by 4 percent.

Top officials in the Beshear administration this week have been outlining how proposed 4 percent cuts would affect government services. For example, Kentucky inspectors would not be able to meet the legally required six mine inspections per year under the cuts, officials said.

A leaner state government workforce, either through attrition or layoffs, would be likely if the state does not get additional revenue.

State government services to help elderly and low-income residents also would be cut or reduced because of Kentucky's deepening budget woes, officials said.

Health and Family Services Secretary Janie Miller said the state is planning to cut about $1.5 million for local health departments. Officials are also planning to cut about $1.2 million for need-based grants to help grandparents who are raising their grandchildren.

Kentucky's Department of Juvenile Justice is facing nearly $1.7 million in reductions, meaning $400,000 in state funding would be eliminated for 41 prevention programs " such as Big Brothers, Big Sisters " which last year served about 3,100 youth and families, Justice Cabinet spokeswoman Jennifer Brislin said.

A key element of Beshear's proposal is boosting state revenue to avoid cuts, specifically through raising the tax on cigarettes and a doubling of the taxes on other tobacco products.

Brenda Caudill, who runs Noble's Truck Stop along Interstate 75 in Corinth, said that was an idea she opposed before she went to Thursday night's meeting. Now, it's an issue she has mixed feelings about.

On the one hand, such a tax will likely hurt her business. But on the other, she said, it could improve the state's coffers as well as state residents' health.

"I'm torn on it," Caudill said. "I see both sides of the issue."

Mary Lee Willoby, the Grant County coroner, said she was glad Beshear's proposal would not cut most money for education in elementary and high schools. Willoby said she supports raising the tobacco tax and increasing the tax on bourbon as well.

"We definitely need the money," she said. "A lot of the ones who are smoking, we have to pay for in the long term."

Beshear said the town hall meetings give people a better understanding of his priorities and the seriousness of Kentucky's budget woes.

"There's a lot more people in Kentucky that understand where we are now and the financial crisis we're in than before we started," Beshear said. "I'm sure there's still lots of people who don't have sufficient information on it, but I think every time we do something like this it raises the level of awareness of people in the state about these issues."




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    Posted by Luanne December 21, 2008
I'm wondering why exploding boiler at the mansion is mentioned. The person could have jsut said the heating system might go down.


So,will someone please tell me what is Kentucky spending money on? KY should be in the black compared to where I live, which is in the black. I'm not bragging, I miss the roads in Ky as I go bumping along here. And I am positive that my children will have to take remedial classes when they start college. But KY always felt wealthier.

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    Posted by Tabo December 19, 2008
I am very glad that property values in this area have not declined like other areas such as California, Las Vegas and Florida. I feel we are very fortunate here in Frankfort.

I would rather have the value of my house go up and pay a few more dollars of taxes each year than see the value of my property go down.

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    Posted by kapitalkid December 19, 2008
Vivian, I am so glad that you are familiar with the local PVA office setup. Once again, let me repeat, the PVA determines the fair cash value. The taxing districts set the tax rates. Under House Bill 44, these taxing districts are allowed to increase the tax rate up to 4% annually, whether the PVA has increased the value or not. We saw that in action this year with the Franklin County School Board's proposal to set a rate above the limit. Maybe the next time that you make a comment, whether it be on taxes or historic properties, you will check your facts first. Have a wonderful Christmas!

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    Posted by Vivian December 19, 2008
Let me take my foot out of my mouth .... The PVA sets the taxable price of my house therefore if my house price goes up, then my taxes go up. Only the PVA sets the price. What they set determines the tax I pay.

The PVA guys drive around town in compact white cars and take pictures and do some walk arounds in setting the value of houses. Then use a GIS system to track all properties and many other city and county agencies utilize the GIS data for their various purposes.

If I want to see my property I can do it via the web or I can go into the PVA's office and view it on one of the two PC's on the right counter. If I want to speak to Patsy, her desk is located on the back left. Mike Whitakers is behind and to her left in an office setting.

I do know about the PVA's office and how it works.

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    Posted by FredEKidd December 19, 2008
I know both Patsy Conway and Renee True who are both PVA's. One for Franklin County and the other for Fayette County. What Mr. Whitaker is talking about in this article is 100% true as some PVA offices are hardly able to operate due to the lack of staff and the cut backs that they have been made to make. No, I am not employeed by either of these offices and I am not an employee of the state. But, I have heard many a conversation not only from PVA's but tax payers about how ill equiped these offices are due to small staff. I don't think that the normal person understand just what county PVA offices do and the importance of keeping a full staff. I find it funny that the PVA offices are being asked to cut when so many other state agencies have not been asked. Why not spread the love around? I know Gov. Beshear very well and I know that he is trying his best and doing what he thinks is right but in this case, I think that he is being given bad advice in asking the PVA's to cut more of what is already a slim staff.

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    Posted by kapitalkid December 19, 2008
Well Vivian-open mouth and insert foot. You obviously no nothing about what you are talking about. The PVA Office does NOT set property taxes. Property tax rates are set by the various taxing agencies in the district where you live. The PVA sets the fair cash value of your property based on market trends in your area. That is it. Without the certification of the tax roll, property tax rates can not be set by the taxing districts. That will mean schools, transportation needs, health care services, etc., will not get there allotted tax money in which to operate. If you have an issue with your taxes going up, take that up with the taxing districts in the area where you live. Don't blame it on the PVA. You just show your ignorance when you speak out on something without educating yourself.

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    Posted by Vivian December 19, 2008
Good, I'm glad the PVA can't certtify the raising of my property taxes. I'm tired of being taxed to death.

Franklin County raises their property taxes more than any county in the state. With property values going down across the country, mine better not go up, they better go down.

Two possible solutions for you to certify the tax rolls.

1. I can't believe one person will bring the PVA operations to a screeching halt. Work harder. divide the salary of the position not being replaced and allocate it to overtime pay to existing staff.

2. If its that important to get the tax rolls certified and you feel so strongly about it, work for free. Make that your contribution to the kids of Franklin County.

Quit whining and figure out a solution.

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