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Garryn Wood's first deer 09
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Posted by RangerDanger November 10, 2009
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What are "right" and "wrong" anyway?
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Posted by FrankfortresidentKY November 10, 2009
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Frankfort Gal: I do animal rescue as well. I eat very little meat, mostly veggies, but I was raised on meat! Southern. But, I am not a hunter and i have limited my meat intake over the years. I agree, should not be a part of a public forum.
gotta; no 9 year old knows right from wrong in this sense. I agree with frankfort Gal, seems a little "sporty and show offy", for my tastes. There is nothing wrong with that either.... |
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Posted by gottahavetrauma November 9, 2009
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wrong again frankfortgal85 --
Of course, our 11 yr old was there as his deer was prepared. If he wasn't then that would be more along the lines of "killing for the thrill" as you hunter-haters refer to it. He sees the consequence of his actions. We're not ashamed of it. He killed it. We field dressed it, put it in back of covered truckbed (so as not to offend you) and took it to the processing plant within two hours of being killed. The backstraps were served on our table in less than 6 hours of being killed. You must not have kids if you believe a 9yr old (11 yr old in our case) doesn't know right from wrong. He has been raised well. He has more respect for God, his country, and others than most adults. He didn't wake up at 11 yrs and we said, "Hey son, you're going hunting!" Our son has begged us to go hunting for years. When he was only 5 yrs we would go sitting in the woods early in the wee hours of morning and this would serve as his hunting for the day, even though he did not even have a rifle at that time. He has looked forward to his first day of hunting for at least 5 years. Yes, he knows right from wrong. We have raised him with consequences for his actions and teaching him right from wrong since he was a baby. At 9 months he knew it was wrong to "bite" others and at age 2 yrs he knew it was wrong to pull a dog's ear, at age 4 he knew that it was wrong to lie (even a little), at age 6 he knew it was "wrong" to make fun of others. Yes, we kill our own meat and yes, we grow our own vegetables. There is nothing wrong with that. Regarding his trophy, absolutely it serves as a trophy and he will remember that day for the rest of his life. It hangs in his room and not yours (so again you don't have to be offended)-- |
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Posted by frankfortgal85 November 7, 2009
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RangerDanger -My point about immaturity and knowing the difference of right and wrong is a complete age thing. Did you make fun of other kids in school for the way they looked, acted, dressed, or other things they could not control or should not have to defend? I am sure you did at least once, that is a part of growing up. It is not about being a bad person it is about growing up and maturity and making the right decisions. A 9 year old does not have the same comprehension of right and wrong as an adult would. I am sure this CHILD also did not skin and prepare this deer himself since his parents I am sure somehow thought that would be harmful or innapropriate. But somehow it is okay for him to kill the deer with a gun.
How could you not think that it is a matter of respect not showing or letting dead deer carcases hang out of your car or visably being seen from the road when they are hanging up in a tree at your house? I think maybe I should put the dead dogs and cats in my car that I have to pick up through my line of work and drive around for all the world to see. Maybe I should put them out on my front lawn for people to see what others have done to them. I do not eat bambi or kill bambi so therefore I do not want to see a poor dead deer carcus on a public website, on someone's car, at Walmart in the sporting goods section, or hanging from someone's tree. You may say its a tropy but I don't call the creamted remains (of the passed rescue animals) I have at my house trophies. I am not calling hunting animal abuse. I just think its a little 'sporty' and 'showing off' having a picture of a child with a dead animal that he killed on here. |
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Posted by Need4Speed November 5, 2009
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frankfortgal85
Doesn't know right from wrong? Looks like a legal buck to me. Looks like a clean kill to me. Looks like he did everything right. Encroaching on habitat has nothing to do with the deer population. 25 years ago, there were not nearly as many deer as there are now. Improved mangement techniques are responsible for the increase. But I suppose in your world, humans would not be capable of such a thing. And what makes you so sure that carrot likes to be eaten? Just because it doesn't make noise? Maybe you should check out "The Secret Life of Plants" you plant killer. |
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Posted by RangerDanger November 4, 2009
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Frankfortgal: "I do not eat meat and have been a vegetarian for 14+ years."
Then, you are perfectly allowed to criticize hunting. I completely disagree with you on almost everything you posted, but at least what you say and what you do are in line with each other. I think a 9 year old DOES know the difference between right and wrong (or at least has a vague idea). I did at that age, anyway. I don't view animal abuse and hunting in the same light, but I know there are those who do. At any rate, your work with animal rescue is commendable. |
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Posted by frankfortgal85 November 4, 2009
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I personally think that this photo is not appropriate for a public forum. I do animal rescue and I have half a mind to post photos from my experiences in rescue and show what people do to animals.
I do not eat meat and have been a vegetarian for 14+ years. I think it is disrespectful to post a photo of this on this website, and let alone a child who does not know the difference between right and wrong. I am not saying that hunting is wrong however. I do realize that the deer population has to be thinned out due to the inevitable overpopulation since we enchroached on their habitat. Because I do not choose to kill animals then I put my beliefs in order and I choose to not eat meat. My problem with this photo is that since this child is so young, he does not know or have the capacity to know right from wrong yet. I do not think anyone should hunt for 'sport'. I think anyone that hunts should eat and use as much of the animal as possible. -With that being said, I do not want to see a dead deer carcus being hung from a tree off our roadways, or see a dead deer carcus thrown in the back of/ tied to someone's car, at least try to cover it up. You don't see me doing the same thing with the animals I find in my line of work! Its about having respect for other people. If you are going to post a picture like this you should also post a picture of the meat and finished products you got out of the animal so it doesn't seem as though you are just enjoying killing the animal for sport. I also think that the dead mounted animals at the newly renovated Walmart are disgusting. It is the same senario with this photo. I shouldn't have to look at that everytime I need to go buy something. Again, you don't see me putting up pictures of what people have done to animals at my business. |
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Posted by RangerDanger November 3, 2009
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I suppose it should be noted that I don't hunt. I used to and might again at some time in the future, but for now I don't.
I just refuse to demonize those who do... |
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Posted by gottahavetrauma November 3, 2009
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OK. To Candace and all the other "hunter-haters"
When is the last time you have spent 6 consecutive quality hours with your child. We are not barbarians or savages. Most hunters have more respect for the land and nature around them than the average citizen. No Candace, you do not have to eat meat to survive. Therefore, if you eat meat bought in a store then yes you are a hypocrite. The difference between wild game that we hunt (and eat) is our food is low fat, has NOT been caged, injected with steroids, growth hormones or antibiotics. This one deer has already put many meals on our family's table (which we gather as a family every night) and will provide many more. Also, the deer did not suffer he was dead within 10 seconds of the shot. We do not know any hunter that does not eat their kill. As for frankfortresidentKY, if you would eat what you killed then maybe you would be eager to post. Also, in regards to your latest post, this is actually the USA and both my husband and I have served our nation in the military and other soldiers continue to serve the USA so that hypocrites like you may voice your opinions. Before you make a remark about my username...both my husband and I work in the trauma field. So while you watch it on TV, we live it. Your welcome. |
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Posted by RangerDanger November 3, 2009
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No. Killing a bug IS the same as killing an animal. Rationalizing hypocrisy might make you feel better, but it makes me laugh.
I don't know any hunters that kill a deer and just leave it there. I've never heard of a hunter that doesn't eat what they kill (ok, so "big game" hunters might, but deer aren't "big game".) |
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