"First you say you do, then you say you won't, I am undecided now, so what am I going to do?"
That us a line from an an old song I can't remember the name . . . . The song is about change.
The recent action by our Governor regarding extened gambling goes with this song.
If our Governor had been half as much obsessed with the real financial problems in our state . . . including tax reform . . . then maybe something would have been accomplished. Rather the Governor since day one has been obsessed with money for the breeders and tracks.
Fist he says: "Let the people vote!"
Then he says lets change the makeup of the Senate . .more D's.
Then he says: "The previous constitutional amendment covers the extended gambling for casinos and slots."
Then he says SPEAKER STUMBO HAS SOME SCHOOL MONEYF OR YOU IF YOU PASS EXTENDED GAMBLING.
What a misguided structure.
NOW Beshear SAYS:.
We don't want the public to vote.
(Why is that?)
It is much easier to buy/intimidate, lobby, members of the General Assembly than it is to change the gambling mood of hundreds of thousand others who oppose the issue. The Governor claims the HORSE INDUSTRY will be gone in Kentucky.
(That is absurd and misguided)
A decision by spectators to engage in other sports entertainment is one of the reasons horse wagering is down. And, what the Governor and his HORSE SET refuse to admit . . .(WHEN SLOTS ARE INTRODUCED AT THE RACE TRACK . . . WAGERING ON HORSES GOES DOWN. So this is not about saving the HORSES BREEDING as much as it is the HORSE INDUSTRY DID NOT CHALLENGE THE GAMBLING CASIONS YEARS AGO AND NOW THEY WANT A WALL STREET TYPE BAILOUT.)
Just now they see other types of wagering are taking money from the track betting. But that is OK with the HORSE SET as all they want is the money from gambling to sustain the lack of public interest in THOUROUGHBRED RACING.
Jim Anderson Stivers I just wanna say.
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Certainly there are MORAL conflicts that occur from gambling . . . that is an individual thing.
If you think about the SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC NIGHTMARES THAT OCCUR FROM BEING A COMPULSIVE GAMBLERS IT DOES GO BACK TO MORALS.
To each his own.
Bankruptcy, families broken apart, increase in teenage suicide, more crimes of robbery and fraud and the mental illness of compulsive gamblers.
This for me, is the HUMAN COST OF GAMBLING. Perhaps one could refer to the crime, family disruption and child suicide as human crimes.It appears these are the increased crime that occurs when gambling takes over. (Yes, we already have this, but . . .)
When one looks at the Ten Commandments perhaps when looking . . . do any of these commandments lend themselves to the spiritual aspect of the issue resulting from increased crime from gambling? Then if you don't believe in the Ten Commandments as the base for spiritual and human behavior, then it won't make any difference.
Just saying.
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Posted by jstivers2 November 12, 2009
Certainly there are MORAL conflicts that occur from gambling . . . that is an individual thing.
If you think about the SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC NIGHTMARES THAT OCCUR FROM BEING A COMPULSIVE GAMBLERS IT DOES GO BACK TO MORALS, FAMILY VALUES.
To each his own.
Bankruptcy, families broken apart, increase in teenage suicide, more crimes of robbery and fraud and the mental illness of compulsive gamblers.
This for me, is the HUMAN COST OF GAMBLING. Perhaps one could refer to the crime, family disruption and child suicide as human crimes.It appears these are the increased crime that occurs when gambling takes over. (Yes, we already have this, but . . .)
When one looks at the Ten Commandments perhaps when looking . . . do any of these commandments lend themselves to the spiritual aspect of the issue resulting from increased crime from gambling? Then if you don't believe in the Ten Commandments as the base for spiritual and human behavior, then it won't make any difference.
Just saying.
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Posted by jstivers2 November 12, 2009
Certainly there are MORAL conflicts that occur from gambling . . . that is an individual thing.
If you think about the SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC NIGHTMARES THAT OCCUR FROM BEING A COMPULSIVE GAMBLERS IT DOES touch the MORALS ISSUE.
To each his own.
Bankruptcy, families broken apart, increase in teenage suicide, more crimes of robbery and fraud and the mental illness these are the life interuptions of compulsive gamblers.
This for me, is the HUMAN COST OF GAMBLING. Perhaps one could refer to the crime, family disruption and child suicide as human crimes.It appears these are the increased crime that occurs when gambling takes over. (Yes, we already have this, but . . .)
When one looks at the Ten Commandments perhaps when looking . . . do any of these commandments lend themselves to the spiritual aspect of the issue resulting from increased crime from gambling? Then if you don't believe in the Ten Commandments as the base for spiritual and human behavior, then it won't make any difference.
Just saying.
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Posted by Need4speed October 30, 2009
The ferret is trying to use Obama's playbook.
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Posted by Piranha October 28, 2009
Well, this wasn't meant to create an argument, but this is what I believe. If I follow the Bible and obey God, I will make it to Heaven. That's my goal.
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Posted by Tabo October 28, 2009
Someguy...LOL at 'being a Yankees fan'!
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Posted by someguy October 28, 2009
bjos
This statement you made "I will choose my own morality" kind of bothers me. I know you were talking specifically about gambling but I am wondering about the generality of it.
Do you really believe we all decide for ourselves what is moral and what isn't? What if I decided it was moral for me to murder someone? Does it make it moral just because I don't have a problem with it? What if I thought it was OK to rape someone? Does that make it exceptable?
I think any reasonable person would say there are certain things (murder, rape, theft, child abuse, being a Yankees fan) that are immoral no matter anyones personal beliefs. A universal ethic that exists outside of us, determined by a being greater than us.
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Posted by Piranha October 27, 2009
We don't have to worry about that. Our church is small enough that we don't have all the staff that you mentioned. We have one small bank account that we pay our bills with and that's it.
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Posted by Tamed-Shrew October 27, 2009
If gambling is against Christian mores, then you need to notify your church to end the following for all employed staff and/or church accounts:
- mutual funds/deferred compensation
- interest-bearing bank accounts
- life insurance policies
All of these promise money that is not "earned."
The basic principle at hand isn't gambling, it's putting materialism (or those other "deadly" sins) above love of your God. And that can be manifested in many ways, not just gambling. Singling gambling out seems like the lazy evangelists' way of conquering a much bigger & complex problem.
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Posted by someguy October 27, 2009
bjos
Curse you google chrome spell checker. Maybe it was a Freudian slip :)
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