The problem is a simple one: A big patch of land in downtown Frankfort has sat vacant for nearly three years now.
The proposed solution isn’t so simple.
“There are many moving parts here,” interim City Manager Tom Russell said of the former Capital Plaza land that housed the Frankfort Convention Center and related infrastructure.
Those moving parts:
Figuring out the Tax Increment Financing (TIF) contributions of the city, county and other taxing districts to help fund construction of a state-mandated parking garage and other public infrastructure such as streets and sidewalks. The parking garage has a state-imposed deadline of April 2022 for completion.
Waiting to hear back on a $5.5 million federal grant that could greatly reduce the TIF revenue contribution toward construction of a parking garage.
How a new YMCA will figure into the property’s development.
What developer CRM Companies, in conjunction with businessman and landowner Marty Johnson, will actually build there.
The official next step for the city, per its TIF flow chart, is to draft a development agreement laying out payment terms and obligations for the project.
Several steps — including TIF revenue pledges as well as city and county ordinances — follow the development agreement, but Eric Cockley, Frankfort’s director of planning and community development, said the city hopes to get much of that work done soon. The final step would be submitting to the state to a request for incremental funds.
“We would love to say we're going to get all that done by the end of February, which would be very optimistic,” Cockley said. “The hope would be that by the time we get to March and April, this spring, we can be close to actually submitting to the state a TIF application. That puts the developer in a position by this spring to potentially start working on his actual design work to be submitted to my office for review.”
The TIF revenue would come from a percentage of money that taxing districts take in from increased property, sales and occupational tax revenues as a result of the property's development. That would be paid back to the developers in order to cover the cost of public infrastructure.
Assuming the $5.5 million grant funds come in, Russell estimated additional public infrastructure costs to total from $3.5 million to $4 million.
On Wednesday, founder and CEO of CRM Companies Craig Turner will update the new city commission on project plans. He said that the information presented won’t be much of a departure from his presentation to the last city commission about a year ago.
“Our presentation will be a review of the previous info since there are new commissioners,” Turner said. “Our plan remains as earlier stated. We will invest a significant amount of money in downtown Frankfort. All parties have continued to work together during the pandemic to create something special.”
The transit grant and the garage
At the forefront of Russell's and Cockley’s minds right now is the possible $5.5 million grant from the Federal Transit Authority.
The grant would provide funds to construct the required parking garage with a transit center attached for the city's public transportation system. It’s unclear how much of the $5.5 million would be spent on parking and how much would be spent on the transit center itself, or where exactly it would be located on Parcel B or Parcel C, which is currently occupied by the downtown YMCA.
The current deadline for completion of the parking garage is April 2022, but the city has requested a nine-month extension. That would give the developer until mid-January 2023 to build the required parking spaces.
“Originally it was two years from the time the developer got possession of the property to build that garage, otherwise it reverts to the state,” Cockley said. “We've had conversations with the state and have requested a nine-month extension. We haven't gotten an official word, but all indications are that they're supportive, that they see how we're working through the project, and we're going to get to the end that everybody wants. So we're optimistic. But that's one of the many moving parts.”
Russell said that the entire parking structure, one that would satisfy the state’s requirement for 350 spaces, would cost around $8 million.
“It’s $5.5 million on an $8 million parking structure,” Russell said. “We'll continue to wait. That would ease a lot of people's minds should that come to fruition.”
Russell said City Grants Manager Rebecca Hall has told him she feels good about the city’s odds of eventually receiving that $5.5 million.
Hall mentioned that the city didn’t send its application directly to the Federal Transit Authority but that the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet included Frankfort’s request in a state application that it sent to the FTA.
While City Hall waits to hear about the grant, Cockley said that TIGER Grant Project Manager Chuck Knowles has been working on preparing a “design-build” contract to be ready if and when the federal money gets to Frankfort.
“So the documents that you put out to bid are pretty thorough, because you're essentially hiring someone to design, build, furnish and finish the entire facility," Cockley said. "It's everything from how many parking spaces, how many floors, to what furniture are you putting in the office space for the transit center. We've been bouncing back and forth and revising it in hopes that we have it as ready to go as possible to get approved by the commission and send out once we hear final word on the FTA grant.”
Assuming the grant money is obtained, Russell said the parking structure would still cost about $2.5 million to finish. Add another $1 million for the proposed extension of Washington Street and expenses for other public infrastructure and that leaves anywhere from $3.5 million to $4 million in costs not covered by the grant.
Who covers what portion of that extra cost is the primary question facing the city, the developer, the county and other taxing districts.
The TIF Agreement
Another hold-up, per Cockley and Russell, has been getting the current city commission — of which only one member is returning from last year — versed on the ins and outs of the TIF agreement.
“We need to make sure everybody's up to speed and hopefully, as we discuss the actual moving parts,” Cockley said. “… Now we're to that part of asking ‘OK, here's the numbers, here's the percentages, who's OK with what, and how do we move forward?’”
“It's all about the dollar in the end,” Russell said.
Russell said that while communication with the county has mostly been limited to elected officials thus far, and that the numbers have yet to be worked out, the participation agreement is currently in draft form and could be finalized as early as next week.
He also presented the latest developments on the project to the Franklin County Fiscal Court last week.
“This project is a city project, but we are counting on the county to be good stewards of their money,” Russell said. “This is a $90 million project. They'll get some revenues off of it just like everybody will, and we're counting on them to be good partners on this thing.”
Russell said that if need be, the city could provide TIF revenues on its own, but “that's not what we're hoping for.”
When it comes to applying for TIF revenues from the state, one of the criteria to be considered is revenue and jobs that will be brought in from across state lines. Russell said that he thinks Frankfort has a strong case despite not being particularly close to any state border.
“I think the pitch for that is the fact that we're only one of 50 state capitals in the nation,” Russell said. “Between the bourbon industry, the Kentucky River and being the state capital, that’s a lot. We don't need to lose sight of the fact that this is the state capital of Kentucky and that the people that come to Louisville or Lexington also will come to Frankfort.”
One point that Cockley and Russell emphasized in making the pitch for this project, and local contributions toward it, was the financial benefit it would provide to Frankfort Independent Schools.
“It bears repeating as many times as we can: the school system, the school system, the school system,” Cockley said. “While the TIF may tie up future marginal tax revenue from these taxing districts, the school system will immediately benefit more so than everybody else. That’s good for everybody.”
The latest development plan states that the school district and transient room taxes over a 20-year period will “amount to over $15 million in additional local tax revenue that is not pledged as a TIF incentive.”
If the TIF is implemented, the city would establish a “special fund” for pledged incremental tax revenues caused by development of the properties. The plan says the city, county and special taxing districts — excluding school districts — may legally pledge up to 100% of their incremental tax revenues from real property taxes. The plan states that the city will request that the state pledge up to 80% of incremental state tax revenues.
YMCA latest, TIF plan
Very little in the way of new information has been shared regarding proposals for CRM’s proposed mixed-use commercial and residential development or a new YMCA building since they were first presented.
The YMCA’s future is still up in the air. Members of the current city commission have expressed varying levels of support for a gift of $2.5 million, to be paid out in annual increments, toward a proposed state-of-the-art YMCA building on Parcel B.
Russell said he has requested that YMCA of Central Kentucky President Paula Anderson meet with the new commission, but he has yet to hear back.
Though no commissioner has explicitly opposed the YMCA funding, several have voiced concerns about not getting the quality facility that was initially presented to the commission.
Russell and City Attorney Laura Ross have previously pointed to wording in the current draft agreement with the YMCA that should the YMCA of Central Kentucky choose to alter the proposed 30,000-square-foot size for the facility, the city would be able to reconsider its funding commitment.
Per the latest TIF plan, intentions for Parcels B and C include the “reimagining of” the Capital Plaza Hotel, a convention/meeting space, a new YMCA building, restaurant and retail space, residential units and a parking structure. Parcels B and C were purchased from the state by Johnson for $1,000 when no other developers submitted bids.
With the recent addition of the old Simon Warehouse property, the total size of the TIF Development District is now 22.2 acres. That includes a piece of land the city sold last week to a developer.
Frankfort businessman Frank Haydon is partnering with Louisville-based Weyland Ventures to develop the warehouse property into a “lifestyle boutique hotel,” with a bar, restaurant and meeting rooms.
Weyland Ventures is involved in a similar plan involving the use of a TIF district to finance a boutique hotel in Paducah.
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The Commonwealth of KY leased the hotel property to The Capital Hotel. The last administration decided to do what they did with the tower, convention center, parking garage and the property under the hotel and YMCA. When they decided to sell the property the Commonwealth was still responsible to provide the hotel with a covered parking garage so that was part of the purchase price for parcel B. If the parking garage is for the hotel then it is not public infrastructure therefore not eligible for tax increment financing (TIF). The parking garage is not the state, city or county government’s responsibility.
Exactly! So how did we get from there to here, where the locals are seriously considering funding the majority of the cost for the hotel’s parking garage that according to the deed is Johnson’s obligation to build? Somebody’s getting snookered, and it’s not Johnson.
The Kentucky YMCA has been tax exempt since 1974.
“The latest development plan states that the school district and transient room taxes over a 20-year period will “amount to over $15 million in additional local tax revenue that is not pledged as a TIF incentive.”
The FIS system’s cut depends in large part to what is going to be built. According to the plan, it is going to be a few apartments with storefronts underneath them, in a location where there is NO demand for such development. What is the taxable value of such “development”? The trend is against investing in brick and mortar retail, and that goes double for downtown Frankfort. The Shoppes located in the Capital Plaza were economic failures back before the current trends poo-pooing brick and mortar stores came into being. It’s worse now, much worse! Don’t take my word for it, look around at all the failed big businesses in town. Ask Elder Beerman, KMart, Sears, Goodys, and Penny’s is flirting with bankruptcy, and they were all located in the burbs shopping centers! Here in downtown it’s worse, much worse!
These tax revenues are pie in the sky, prove me wrong!
I am a tax and spend liberal and I don't get this at all. It's as if there were a prize offered for the ugliest way to hold downtown Frankfort back. Is there a dramatic expansion planned for public transit?
And is there any established need for said expansion for public transit? There are two things that are barely used in this town, and both of them are public transit.
None of this redevelopment plan makes a lick of sense to me. One-term rogue Republican Governor Matt Bevin waltzed into downtown and gutted it, and then left us all with a hungry bagman with his hand out where all of the money goes.
Bevin had help in KCDC’s Terri Bradshaw, former City Manager Cindy Stenhauser, former finance secretary James Landrum, former mayor Bill May, and current county judge executive Huston Wells. Can we get a BIG hand for all if these fine public servants who helped the Governor rid us of the Frankfort Convention Center, and its $20 million p/y in tourists’ dollars to our county? I would like to present each of them with a “You’ve done a heckava job, Brownie!” Award.
Because of their exemplary public service, we have successfully sklewed the pooch.
I'm over here wondering why on earth the city and county have gone along with the state's mandate for a parking garage? There are two massive parking garages already on the same block. I've got $100 for the first person who can prove to me that either or both of those garages see 90% or higher capacity on any given day. Heck, I'll even go for 75% capacity. Takers?
Your right Donna, the City could easily get out from under this “ state mandate “ I’d think , since we’ve got someone as Governor that believes in all of Kentucky’s people, not just the wealthy developers and their shills for private for profit like the last one . Those working for the City, that are appointed or hired by the commission are even going around publicly promoting the developers! They getting a piece of the action to ?
Hint: The City is not under any such mandate, the developer who paid $1,000 for 12 acres of what “Landrum” and other sycophants referred to as “prime developable real estate” is.
Who cares if the developer defaults on this parking garage? I would rather see it revet back to the state under this current administration, than to be in the hands of these developers! It would get this bunch of grifters off of our backs, so we can start all over with contractors of OUR chosing! Not Matt Bevin’s buddies.🤮
AMEN! Brother JimDan! Best idea I’ve heard for a while!( the only good idea) I second that motion!
Fact: the deed between the Commonwealth and Mr Johnson's company requires the developer to build a parking structure by April 1, 2021. The developer is responsible for building the parking structure.
That's right, the developer.
My question to the City is this:
Could you explain why the City has shifted the financial responsibility of building a parking structure from the developer to the taxpayers?
*2022, not 2021 -- J. McW
Is there anybody asking these officials that question... it seems like these people are walking around all giddy oblivious to that fact.
Teacher, teacher pick me, me! Thank you!
The City under the old management, May, Scottie wazhisname, and Sower, were bamboozled into thinking that this was their only deal, which obviously now that they’re gone, it is not the case. Someone just has to convince the new city commission that they’re not beholding to any of those bad deals that their predecessors were setting up.
Let the current developer hang out to dry on this one, we don’t want him around here anyway! You know, the rabies virus is no longer infectious after the host dies and it’s saliva dries. He got a sweetheart deal from Bevin, that did not have Frankfort‘s best interest at heart. I’ll bet that governor Beshear would give us the land after it reverts back to the state to make up for not lifting a finger to stop Bevin from demolishing the Convention center for no good reason!
All we gotta do is sit on it for a little while longer. Patience.
We really need a break, Frankfort, hosting state government can be confounding. I am a proponent of quality mixed use development. People like living within walking distance of markets and restaurants and attractions.
I am hopeful our city leaders are able to deliver given all of the challenges presented by the pandemic economy.
Nothing wrong with quality mixed use development, but in this case it seems to be fraught with risks, and quite speculative in nature. Why should the government be in the business of residential/commercial real estate development on a private real estate developer’s property. There is something incestuous about this arrangement, that just doesn’t pass the smell test. Isn’t this just government intruding on the private sector’s bailiwick? Or is it a private real estate developer conning local government into paying for his financial contractual obligations... and excepting all of the risk! Is that governments role? Is that really how we want our local tax dollars being spent? Speculating on this risky if not dubious project?
Who owns it after it’s completed? Who runs it? Who profits from it?
“This is a $90 million project.”
Remember back when Matt Bevin and Landrum saying that there weren’t any money to renovate the convention center, and now we got $90 million project on the board? Do you know what we can do with $90 million down there? Build another freaking Convention center, that’s what.
We really need a break, Frankfort. Hosting state government can be confounding. I am a proponent of quality mixed use development. People like living within walking distance of markets and restaurants and attractions.
I am hopeful our city leaders are able to deliver given all of the challenges presented by the pandemic economy.
Keeping it 100!
I bet with that dangling $5.5 million in the breeze the developers are out of their dens , sniffing the air , thinking of the hunt! Flanking their prey!?
5.5 million $ ( vote for McConnell money) grant — where could that really be useful? Education . Teachers raise, security on pensions, health care/ food during this pandemic for the unemployed, ................... What else besides a needless hunk of concrete parking garage ,to watch deteriorate over the next 50 years
“This is a $90 million project.”
Good gawd!
Great analogy Richard!
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